JB: Matthew! Who have you got up there?
MA: Well, we've got Kathryn March, former leader of the SDP; we're welcoming back Martha Lane, newly elected in Catherine-de-Barnes, for the Citizen Alliance; it's Alan Gonville, re-elected in Blackrock, from the Democrats; and Salma Remington, co-spokesperson for the CSL and new MP for Tadmoor. Welcome all, and congratulations Martha, Alan, and Salma. Salma, I'll start with you - is Robert right, are you disappointed?
SR: We're not disappointed by our own performance. To grow from 2% and four seats as the Communists in 2015, to 10% and ten seats at least in 2018, is a great achievement. What disappoints me is the success that the Citizen Alliance has had. For that kind of nasty, oppressive, populist politics to come so close to winning this election is sickening.
ML: Can I-
MA: Martha Lane, go ahead.
ML: Yeah, that's totally wrong.
SR: It's not wrong, what's wrong with what I said?
ML: It's not 'come so close to winning'. It's 'winning'. We're going to come first.
KM: No, you're not.
MA: Please, please. Martha Lane, Robert was very clear that the SDP are on course for first place. Do you really think you've got 30 more seats left in you than the Social Democrats?
ML: Absolutely. How many of the seats left out are SDP? Looking at the map, it can't be more than a dozen or so. I have no doubt we'll take around half of what's left.
RM [shouting from below]: There are 32 SDP-held seats still out.
ML: Right, but they'll lose half of those. They're rural, they're probably marginal. I'm just saying that this 'oh, SDP will win, Citizen Alliance came close but no cigar' is just wishful thinking - from Salma, from yourselves, from all the talking heads. When we get the most votes and the most seats at the end of the night, it'll really show up why nobody trusts the elite any more in this country.
MA: Well, we will see. Kathryn March, it's looking close - is this what you wanted to happen?
KM: I mean, it's not what I wanted to happen, of course not. I wanted us to get a majority, and I think perhaps if we did things a little differently, maybe we would have. It really saddens me that we're going to fall short of a majority because 10% of voters have pissed away their votes on Salma's party and, in so many seats, let a right-wing candidate through the middle. I mean, Salma, is that what you wanted?
SR: I don't make a difference between neoliberal conservatives who cloak themselves in the red flag, and neoliberal conservatives who wear blue or buff. If you wanted us to not be a thing, you should've listened to your voters and not sold out the refugees, the oppressed minorities, women, the LGBTQIA+ community...
ML [interjecting]: Oh, good grief.
SR: ...the Muslims and Kaasians, and all the people you let down by allying with fascists like Martha here, and Emryc Isla, people who roll their eyes and are like OH GOOD GRIEF at the mention of queer people! It's disgusting! Putting yourselves at the feet of these people for power!
KM: Oh, no, you're not wrong. We didn't do enough to press a broad left agenda, and I think the leadership got that totally wrong, sadly. The right of our party has always been too quick to embrace centrism on social issues with a little bit of economic red meat, and a lot of very passionate students and people from more marginalised groups have hit us hard on that tonight. But the fact remains that this division is what's ruined us tonight.
SR: You caused the division.
MA: This is big stuff, Kathryn. You're quite a major figure on the left of the party. Is this criticism a sign that your wing of the party is growing tired of Sam Courtenay?
KM: Well, no, I don't have a 'wing' of the party, I want us to have a broad left agenda. But what I will say is that Sam Courtenay has been badly advised in this campaign, and a lot of the people - you can call them 'the left' if you want, I'd call them normal SDP members and supporters - will be very impatient to see him implement the changes we need. It's time for Sam to refresh his team and reorient his approach if we want to get the majority that I think is achievable.
MA: Alan, you've been a bit silent so far tonight. Good night for yourself, isn't it?
AG: Well, I'm glad to be back in Blackrock, of course, it's a wonderfu-
MA: I mean nationally.
AG: Oh. Ah, right. Well, yes and no. Yes, we've done a lot better than expected, and that's a credit to some excellent campaigners; but it's very sad to have to watch dozens upon dozens of our great colleagues lose their seats.
MA: So you think credit belongs to campaigners and not Sue Fareham?
AG: Sue played a role, of course, but we're a broad church, and frankly no leader would be able to have pulled off the kind of gains we've seen in the polls without the dedication of activists committed to an Angleter ruled by freedom. I know they'll be looking to the party to reflect that stand for freedom when deciding what course to take in the next few weeks.
MA: It's pretty clear you've got the balance of power between the SDP and the Citizen Alliance. Which side are you on?
AG: As I said, a guiding principle will be a commitment to moderation and freedom. So I'd find it particularly difficult to throw my weight behind Emryc Isla; and I know we'd need some stiff assurances from the Citizen Alliance if we were to go ahead and do that.
MA: It's interesting because a number of MPs in your party have come out with differing stances. Some are talking about it being very difficult to support Sam Courtenay, and you're talking about it being very difficult to support Emryc Isla.
AG: Well, we are indeed a broad church, but I expect we'll ultimately be guided by the voice of our members, which as far as I'm aware, is towards freedom, moderation, and liberal conservatism.
MA: Hmmm. Well, what's your prediction for the final 100 or so seats?
AG: I think we can push for 150 seats overall, which would be sad considering we'd be down on 2015 and in third overall, but would be great compared to where we thought we'd be a few weeks ago. If you look at the seats out - Murshetpinar, Plumpigeon, The Cubar, Masshouse, Talaffar, Kaf...
ML: You'll lose Kaf.
AG: Ha! That's like a 30,000 majority.
ML: We'll win Kaf. I'd bet you £30 for that.
AG: £30 plus I'd happily give you £1 for every 1,000 majority you get there. It'll never happen.
ML: That's a deal. And we'll see.
MA: We'll see indeed. I'd like to say at this point also that Sirion TV does not condone gambling in any form, and if there are any kids watching, please don't gamble on election results - it's wrong, and frankly, it's a little bit sad.
JB: Thanks, Matthew.