JB: Our next question is from Eunice Sabella, from Harran, in Maien.
ES: My son, Corporal Nicholas Sabella, died fighting for this country in Dromund Kaas in 2013. Five years later, mothers up and down this country are still losing sons and daughters to this pointless war. When will it stop?
JB: Apparently, the only person who hasn’t gone first yet is Robert Kilroy-Silk, so let’s have you.
RKS: I was the only person on this stage to oppose this war back in 2011-
SF: It started in 2012.
RKS: -and I’m the only person who hasn’t changed his mind. The Democrats overreacted to the Kaasians at a time when they could’ve been negotiated with, and Angleteric soldiers have been paying the price ever since. It’s time to do a deal with the Kaasians and pull our troops out, and I’m the only person who can do it.
JB: Sue Fareham? You apparently want to speak?
SF: I want to correct some real nonsense there. Eunice, I am so sorry for your loss, and so grateful for your son’s valiant service. People like Kilroy might not think it meant much, but I know your son died to keep this country safe. Dromund Kaas literally abducted and probably beat the Premier Commissioner, they were rapidly arming themselves, and they were on our border. To say we could’ve just negotia-
RKS: I think I could’ve done a better job that Maleeka Liszckoszi, Sue. Who knows, if I’d been Premier back then, perhaps all the deaths and all the refugees could’ve been avoided.
SF: Is ‘back then’ 2011 or 2012? But the main point is that we are in this for a reason, and we need to build a stable, friendly nation in Dromund Kaas. Just pulling out won’t make this country any safer – the only real option *DING* is to stay in until we win, and that’s why Sam Courtenay’s had to do it.
JB: And let’s hear from him. Sam Courtenay.
SC: Thanks, John. I’d like to pay tribute to Corporal Sabella and all of those brave men and women who’ve laid down their lives for Angleter, especially during my government’s tenure. No, they shouldn’t be dead. We want to get out. And no, we don’t want to stay in forever on a nation-building exercise, like Sue Fareham. But this is a complex situation and we need to have a semblance of safety before we get out.
EI: Sam, are you going to apologise to all the soldiers and their parents who voted for you because you said you’d get the war finished by the end of 2015? Or how about the families of those who died in the 9/9 attacks – 959 people dead, and still no answers? How come, Sam Courtenay?
SC: Well, as I said, it’s a complex situation, and I hope they can at least appreciate why I’ve had to make the decisions I have, even if they’re not-
EI: No apology, then. Got it.
SC: I think that most people, if they were put in the situation I was, and learned what I did when I came into office, then they’d have done the same.
EI: This is an insult.
SF: Can I also add, it’s so ludicrous that you’re admitting you won an election on a promise that you didn’t know enough to make honestly, and then just fought the war half-heartedly for three years. It’s not good enough, Sam.
EI: Oh and Sam, if this all dawned on you after you took office in June 2015 – and that’s not what you told me, by the way – what’s this? This is you, January 2017. It’s in the National Observer. “2017, we can rest assured, is the final year for the regime.”
JB: Sue Fareham, Emryc Isla, that’s enough. Sam Courtenay, 30 seconds to respond, and then we’ll bring in Salma Remington. Go.
SC: That quote referred to winning, not pulling out, Emryc, and you know it.
[EI shakes head and shrugs shoulders in disbelief, mouthing ‘SAME DIFFERENCE’]
When you get down to it, there are three options here. A sudden pullout, like Emryc and Kilroy and probably Salma want. A never-ending nation-building project, like Sue wants. Or the SDP approach, the measured approach, the approach that wants out, but not at the expense of Angleter’s safety.
JB: Salma Remington to finish.
SR: Yeah, so my condolences are for the thousands of innocent Kaasians killed by the Angleteric establishment’s aggression.
The millions of refugees who’ve fled our bombs and our troops, and are now being held in Sam Courtenay’s squalid camps. I’m not going to shed any tears for imperialists.
EI: This is the Angleteric left, people. No apology, no answers, no sympathy. They hate you. They hate their own country and its troops. It’s so vile.
SR: I’d rather hate my own country than hate other countries so much I’ll invade them and put their people in camps. The war needs to end, and our war criminals need to be extradited to DK for prosecution – and that includes Concentration Camp Courtenay.
[Audience gets restless; even louder boos]
SC: This is outrageous. I don’t care how much time I’ve had, I’m responding anyway. Salma Remington, you are not even fit to clean the shoes of the brave men and women, like Corporal Sabella, who put their lives on the line for this country. I will not, will not take these outlandish accusations.
And you know what’s really sad? That diatribe of yours allows people like Emryc Isla to attack the left in general. It brings us all down and that hurts the working people of this country.
And also let’s stop with this crap about concentration camps. Do you think that if we let millions of Kaasians into this country there’d magically be millions of houses and all the infrastructure and public services for them? This is the real world, Salma, and it’s tragic, but I’m actually trying to achieve something here, instead of moralising from the comfort of being like the sixth party or whatever.
JB: OK. Emryc Isla, you’ve spoken enough already, so I- oh, fine, 20 seconds.
EI: I don’t need that, John. All I have to say is Eunice, your son was a patriot and a hero, and it’s a tragedy that his life was cut short because of this divisive, brutal, and pointless war. End the war. Fund the military. That’s all.
JB: That was 16 seconds, well done. Now for our final question.