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    Voting in the Conclave

    Please vote by PMing your cardinals' votes to The Holy See, and vote in the following manner (repeating for as many cardinals as you've got):

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    Cardinal elects as Supreme Pontiff [b]Cardinal [/b]
    Cardinal elects as Supreme Pontiff [b]Cardinal [/b]

    Each round of voting will take 48 hours or until everyone's voted, at which point if one candidate has more than 2/3 of the vote, they are elected Pope. If no candidate receives 2/3 of the vote, we have another round, and another, and so on until a Pope is elected. The specific results of each round will be announced to the conclave - any disclosure to the outside world of such specifics, even after the conclave has finished, will result in automatic excommunication of all responsible. The rest of the world will have to watch the chimney. Likewise, this forum is password-protected for a reason, so please don't tell anyone not participating in the conclave what the password is - that'll earn an excommunication too.

    A few more words on voting. You can vote for cardinals from your own country, but a cardinal voting for themselves is rare and strongly frowned upon, and though cardinals tend to lean towards like-minded cardinals from their own country (or from friendly/similar countries), please don't stack all your cardinals' votes with one candidate, especially in the first couple of rounds, and especially if you have a relatively large number of cardinals.

    Announcements and Meetings

    In this thread cardinals can make announcements to the conclave (again, telling the outside world of these gets the responsible cardinal excommunicated) - these are usually things like imploring the cardinals not to vote for them. More behind-the-scenes things, such as lobbying for or against a particular cardinal, should happen outside this thread but within the conclave forum. Telling anyone about that sort of thing is generally not advised, but won't necessarily get those responsible for it getting out excommunicated.

    I think that's all for now,

    Cardinal Todd Unctious,
    Dean of the College of Cardinals.



  • Cardinal Todd Unctious, as Dean of the College of Cardinals, will now give the pre-conclave meditation.

    Today we commence what we can only describe as a momentous task and a great burden ? the entrusting of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, which was instituted by Christ and will endure to the end of days, to a new successor to Peter. I do not stand here to lecture you as to which sort of Pope to elect in terms of nationality, or background, or the ideological labels applied to us. One wonders what the press of today would have made of Peter two millennia ago ? a fisherman by trade, who had thrice denied Jesus in order, essentially, to save his own skin? Would a man who had been rebuked by Jesus with the words ?Get behind me, Satan!? be called papabile? What mattered then, and mattered now, was that Peter most sincerely loved Christ. That Peter followed Christ always, in every way. And that Peter recognised his own faults and errors, deplored them, and strived relentlessly to correct them.

    That is a model not only for Peter, not only for the Papacy, but for the Church as a whole. It is not, as it is so often characterised today, a mere policy option, but in fact an absolute necessity laid down by Christ himself, that we should go out and preach the faith unashamedly and in its entirety. We must be, as Christ told Peter and Andrew when he first called on them to follow him, fishers of men. When what the Venerable Paul VI called the ?smoke of Satan? enters into our Church, as it has always tried to do and will always try to do, the answer is not to keep quiet about the faith, but to get louder about it, to shout about it so loudly that everyone hears it. So loudly that everyone outside the Church can hear it, yes; so loudly that the laity can hear it, again, yes; but also, and perhaps most importantly, so loudly that we ourselves hear it, listen to it, and act upon it. The Church is greater than all of us, and we must remember that we are merely entrusted with it for a certain period of time. True humility is not to equate ourselves with the Church and to denigrate it, but instead to recognise its glory and to recognise that it is a victim, a most unfortunate victim, of all our failures. That is the right way, the Christian way, and the way that will benefit the Church. Ignoring our failures, and ignoring the damage they do to the Church, will simply damage the Church further.

    It is this most basic and most Petrine of approaches that is needed now as much as it ever was. When our Church is debased from outside, most notably today by the Satanic gang of murderers that claim to fight their wicked war in Her name, it falls upon us to lead the fight for good against evil, and recognise when we have failed to do so as much as we could have done in the past. It falls upon us to explain that these murderers are anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, and preach the faith to prove that they are. The true Crusade of this generation is against these butchers who call themselves ?Crusaders?. It is postmodern relativism that claims that our faith, or parts of it, are not universal truth, and can be bent, diluted, or forgotten altogether ? it is that dangerous ideology that convinces the self-proclaimed ?Crusaders? that massacring innocents is somehow pleasing to God. Peter set the example here. He gave that ideology no quarter ? he taught the full Gospel, even in such peril that he was eventually martyred for it.

    This century has thus far not been a great one for our Church, it must be said. It is most unfortunate that the Second Vatican Council coincided with the beginning of the secularisation of society across Europe, most notably in the cultural and intellectual spheres. Even in the Church, so often misappropriating the name of Vatican II in their arguments, we saw the rise of modernists and secularists who believed that the faith could and should be changed ? this only served to cause confusion at the worst possible time. All this has led to the slow emptying of our churches and cathedrals, a tragedy when Vatican II actually gave us the blueprint for reinvigorating the Church. In this age of individualism ? it is individualism more than anything that explains the concurrent growth of free market economics, of social permissiveness and liberalism, of relativism and post-modernism, and of post-nationalism ? people?s spiritual needs have changed. People?s religious beliefs are now more personal to them than ever ? that goes even for atheists. Especially now with the accessibility to knowledge offered by the Internet, people demand that they know their religion inside and out, and that it makes sense to them. Yet thanks to the decline of Catholic education, people know less about Catholicism than they ever did. Indeed, many people hate the Catholic Church because they have misconceptions about what it truly is. A similar situation existed in our Church?s first few centuries of existence ? few knew what it taught, many hated it because they did not understand it, and it could not rely on state patronage to help its cause. So Peter, the Apostles, and the Church Fathers taught the faith in its entirety, loud and clear. Before they embrace Catholicism, now as it was in the anti-Nicene era, people will want to understand it.

    I also wish to pay tribute in this respect to the Pope Emeritus, Clement XV. In the last eight years, Clement taught us the importance of the intellectual sphere and especially the cultural sphere as key battlefields that the Church must focus on in this era. In this age of individualism, people?s cultural and artistic tastes are truly personal, a part of one?s very identity ? and sadly, as culture has become more important to people, the Church has been pushed out of it. I?m sure you?re all familiar with the rather cringeworthy attempts of many Christians to get ?down with the kids?, to try to be cool, to pander to secular trends. Pope Clement knew the futility of that, but he also knew people?s innate sense of true beauty in the arts. Pope Clement knew that by focussing on ? reviving, in many respects ? that concept in the artistic world, the Church can become once more a cultural trend-setter and thus start to teach the faith through it. The arts, after all, can sometimes speak to us in ways that words ? even the most scintillating of polemics ? simply cannot.

    As I said, I have no intention to tell you who to vote for, or to give a ?partisan? vision of what the next Pope can do. If you?re sitting now, unimpressed that this wasn?t the most scintillating of polemics, then I can reassure you that it wasn?t intended to be one. Nowhere near. My intention, and I hope I succeeded, was to give some thoughts ? something, perhaps, of a reminder ? on the role of the Papacy and of the Church as a whole, both specifically in this day and age, and also in terms of the eternal tasks that this Church was put on this Earth to do. Let us strive, both within these walls and outside them, to do our Church justice. Thank you.



  • The first round of voting is now open. You have until 6pm GMT on 11th December to vote. Voting instructions and advice are given in the opening post of this thread.



  • The results of the first round. Six cardinals abstained from voting, so only 64 took part in this round. Fortunately, the issue of what constitutes two thirds of the vote is nowhere near being relevant at this point. The results are thus:

    Toddus, Cardinalis Unctious - 8
    Cereus, Cardinalis Alderhilt - 6
    Einicus, Cardinalis Baraszi - 6
    Calicus, Cardinalis Endanza - 5
    Caedredus, Cardinalis Auvray - 4
    Philotheos, Cardinalis Demon - 4
    Gerardus, Cardinalis Pedros - 4
    Milcolumbus, Cardinalis Sidhu - 4
    Franciscus, Cardinalis Morales - 3
    Renatus, Cardinalis Schneider - 3
    Ludovicus, Cardinalis Taagel - 3
    Theobertus, Cardinalis L'Appeville - 2
    Angelus, Cardinalis Rolani - 2

    1 vote each - Cardinales Georgius Amani, Angelus Amato, Godfredus Danneels, Godricus D'Audrieu, Carolus Krushj, Gulielmum Oaks, Petrus Rahian, Iacobus Stuckey, Theodosius Thales, Larseus Valmar.

    NO POPE IS ELECTED

    We now proceed to the second round of voting, which will again take approximately 48 hours. I implore all cardinals to vote. Voting shall proceed in the same manner, and shall end at 7pm GMT on 13th December.



  • The results of the second round. This time all cardinals voted, so the threshold for election is 47. The results are thus:

    Toddus, Cardinalis Unctious - 18
    Einicus, Cardinalis Baraszi - 12
    Cereus, Cardinalis Alderhilt - 11
    Calicus, Cardinalis Endanza - 7
    Milcolumbus, Cardinalis Sidhu - 7
    Angelus, Cardinalis Amato - 2
    Caedredus, Cardinalis Auvray - 2
    Godfredus, Cardinalis Danneels - 2
    Petrus, Cardinalis Rahian - 2
    Iacobus, Cardinalis Stuckey - 2

    1 vote each - Cardinales Philotheus Demon, Episcopus Edward, Theobertus L'Appeville, Franciscus Morales, Ludovicus Taagel.

    NO POPE IS ELECTED

    We now proceed to the third round of voting. Upon the request of some cardinals, this round shall be extended to just under 72 hours, and so shall end at 6pm GMT on 16th December.



  • The results of the third round. Two cardinals abstained, and the results are thus:

    Toddus, Cardinalis Unctious - 29
    Einicus, Cardinalis Baraszi - 28
    Godfredus, Cardinalis Danneels - 2
    Theobertus, Cardinalis L'Appeville - 2
    Iacobus, Cardinalis Stuckey - 2

    1 vote each - Cardinales Cereus Alderhilt, Caedredus Auvray, Episcopus Edward, Antonius Hurkman, Milcolumbus Sidhu.

    NO POPE IS ELECTED

    Note that both Cardinals Unctious and Baraszi had enough votes by themselves to block the other's election.

    We now proceed to the fourth round of voting. This one shall last a little under 48 hours, and shall end at 6pm on 18th December.



  • The results of the fourth round. Once again, two cardinals abstained, and the results are thus:

    Einicus, Cardinalis Baraszi - 44
    Toddus, Cardinalis Unctious - 8
    Renatus, Cardinalis Schneider - 6
    Milcolumbus, Cardinalis Sidhu - 6
    Godfredus, Cardinalis Danneels - 2
    Calicus, Cardinalis Endanza - 1
    Theobertus, Cardinalis L'Appeville - 1

    NO POPE IS ELECTED

    We now proceed to the fifth round of voting, which will end at 6pm on 20th December.



  • The results of the fifth round. Once again, two cardinals abstained, and the results are thus:

    Einicus, Cardinalis Baraszi - 53
    Milcolumbus, Cardinalis Sidhu - 9
    Renatus, Cardinalis Schneider - 5
    Calicus, Cardinalis Endanza - 1

    CARDINAL BARASZI HAS REACHED THE THRESHOLD

    Cardinalis Baraszi, acceptasne electionem de te canonice factam in Summum Pontificem?


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    Cardinal Baraszi paused and closed his eyes to try and listen for guidance he felt a strength stir wihtin in, he opened his eyes and stood

    Cardinal Baraszi: Accepto



  • Quo nomine vis vocari?


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    Cardinal Baraszi knew without hesitation the name he was to choose

    Cardinal Baraszi: Aloisius, I choose to be called Aloisius, after St Aloysius Gonzaga parton saint of Christian Youth. We cannot and will not forget the youth of our church who are our future.


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