Ice Cream Legalisation Debate



  • Ice Cream legalisation is a hot topic in Icholasen. We invite people of the European Union to join or watch our debate. Here are the main arguments for and against. Feel free to use these or not use these.

    For: Prohibition must be weighed against the loss of personal freedom. Countries have a responsibility to respect individual free will and the right of self-determination. The immorality of Ice Cream use can only be based on one set of moral beliefs. For example, it is discriminatory to claim that Judeo-Christian abstinence from intoxication is the correct set of moral beliefs. The War on Dairy serves the immediate interests of politicians. By taking a ?moral? stand against recreational dairy, or fighting the evils caused by the illegal dairy trade they increase their popularity amongst constituents.

    Against: A State cannot be involved with the distribution of substances considered immoral by relevant lots of the population. A substance considered unhealthy cannot be produced and distributed with the help of the state, because the goal of the state is to protect citizens? health and not to expose them to risk. The easy availability of dairy would create new consumers rather than rescuing current ones. Dairy Producrs are addictive. They rob the user of free will. A dairy user cannot make an informed and rational decision to continue using ice Cream because the use of the drug eliminates that user?s ability to think logically. Nor can they disseminate themselves from dairy consumption.



  • A teenage boy, Jonny, who thinks he is cool because he does ice cream takes the stand. He is wearing an Ice Cream t-shirt, socks and cargo shorts. He wants to be a "Manual Labourer" How funny... He's probably going to be a brickie.

    _"I believe that Ice Cream should be LEGALISED! I have many reasons but I will try and keep it short. Prohibition has failed to control the use and domestic production of Ice Cream. The government has tried to use criminal penalties to prevent Ice Cream use for over 75 years and yet: Ice Cream is now used by over 25 million people annually, Ice Cream is currently the largest cash crop in Icholasen, and Ice Cream is made all over the planet. Claims that Ice Cream prohibition is a successful policy are ludicrous and unsupported by the facts, and the idea that Ice Cream will soon be eliminated from Icholasen and the rest of the world is a ridiculous fantasy.

    Ice Cream is not a lethal Dairy Product and is safer than alcohol.
    It is established scientific fact that Ice Cream is not toxic to Nicoleizians; Ice Cream overdoses are nearly impossible, and Ice Cream is not nearly as addictive as alcohol or tobacco. It is unfair and unjust to treat Ice Cream users more harshly under the law than the users of alcohol or tobacco."_

    Jonny leaves the stand.



  • A Doctor, Penny Smith takes the stand. She works in the A&E and sees people coming in from Friday and Saturday Night outs, with mainly Ice Cream and Alcohol cases.

    I agree, Jonny, that Prohibition has failed, but we just need to try harder. It will work eventually. If we have education about Ice Cream and its dangers in Schools with disgusting medical examinations showing the effects, I'm sure it will stop kids doing Dairy even if it means we scar them for life. If you worked where I do, you'd understand it can be lethal, it most definitely is toxic and is very addictive. My friend and colleague, Doctor Drew isn't here and I know he would have liked to be, but here is what he would have said. " It would be malpractice to say that Ice Cream isn't addictive. Anybody who's experienced it, actually been addicted to it, knows how profound that addiction is.... The difficult thing about Ice Cream addiction is some people, even though they're addicted can do fine with it for many many years before they start to have difficultly, but eventually the high starts wearing off, people start eating a lot more to try to get that high back and that's when they descend into difficulties. ...I've been treating Ice Cream addiction for 20 years. When people are addicted to Ice Cream, Tobacco and alcohol the drug they have the most difficult time giving up is the Ice Cream. It is extremely addictive...for some people. I think that's where people get confused. It's not very addictive for many people. It's a small subset of people with a genetic potential for addiction. But for them it is really tough. You only need talk to them, they'll tell you how tough it is."

    Furthermore the Dairy Product decimates many people's lives: Movies portray Dairy Consumers as harmless, fun-loving people who spend their time giggling and faffing around, but they don't show these people when they're flunking out of school, losing their jobs, frustrated because they can't concentrate or losing the love of their lives because they just don't want to be with a Ice Cream Addicted loser anymore. It's bad enough that we already lose so many Nicoleizians to cigarettes, alcoholism, and drunken driving. Do we really want to endorse the loss of millions more potentially productive Nicoleizians via Ice Cream? Do we move on from there to Milk, Cheese or Yoghurt? Some people would say, ?If they want to do it, great, then it's no business of ours.? But, you can also bet that those same people will be complaining about all the junkies and welfare cases that will be created by the policy they endorsed.



  • Sir Richard Samson of the Imperial Prussian State took to the stand,

    "Even as a foreigner I believe I should have some say in this debate, after all I do own a few corporations based here that greatly help the lives of Icholasen. What we should do is simple, yes Ice Cream may have its....well side effects on the people of Icholasen but viewing it from an economic stand point and practical stand point is big as well. Ice cream's ban in Icholasen affects the rates of Tourism from other nations, for example Prussians. Of those who said they wouldn't come to Icholasen ever, 17% named the dairy ban as the top reason.

    Another big fact is that so much money has been wasted on this war on dairy, when it can be used for more practical reasons such as welfare or maybe cutting some taxes. We could even create a tax on the dairy sale, this would generate money for the state not waste it. And if we did legalize it we can regulate the sale, so we keep the people of Icholasen as safe as possible! These would be heavy regulations as well.

    So I encourage the people of Icholasen to look at the economy, and realize it is support that Ice Cream be legalized to help it grow bigger then it already has!"



  • Jonny respond to the Prussian, "I too believe that we must legalise Ice Cream as we spend and lose too much money on it! If we tax the dairy we will make a lot of money, and we could invest in tourism. We need a bigger economy. Enough of these Socialists robots saying "Beep Boop Beep Boop Free healthcare for everyone"

    Penny Smith responded by saying. "It is not a waste of money you ignorant, capitalist FOOL! We need to keep our CHILDREN safe, and that is worth more than money. If you truly understand the consequences of this then you'd believe me.

    Jonny then responded with "Doctor Smith, even if your "Education" will work, what you've got to bear in mind is that for the first time in history, Nicoleizians are more in favour of legalizing Ice Cream than criminalizing it. 2014 has markedly been a successful year for Ice Cream legalization. Now, 58 percent of Nicolezians are in favor allowing the Dairy Product to be legal. Furthermore, Ellen Page, John Prescott, Prince Tommy and even the head of the Church of Icholasen, Mother Tannequa are all high-functioning Ice Cream users. Tannequa, who is 72 years old, gave an interview with Bravo's Andy Cohen over the summer of 2013 where she talked about "sloppy ice cream" and flat out said, "Of course I know how to scoop ice cream." And this isn't just an argument about how the "cool kids" do it and therefore so should you. There are big-time business people, such as Richard Branson, who couldn't have accomplished as much as they have if they were being debilitated by a killer dairy product. Sure, there is a difference between the ice cream use of a "dairyhead" and Lianne Kent, but we shouldn't continue punishing the moderate users.

    One of the biggest and most widespread arguments from Ice Cream detractors is that consuming Ice Cream will lead to using other Dairy Products. As Scientific Nicoleizian points out, the studies that show people who use Ice Cream first before trying other Dairy is correlation and not causation. People who go on to use harder dairy also tend to smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol before trying the other substances plus with with our current stigma on ice cream only people who are predisposed to being a "outlaw dairy user" are going to use dairy. On top of all of this, as mentioned above, nearly half the country has already tried ice cream which is more than how many Nicolezians know who Eric Pickles is and much much more than the percentage of Nicolezians who are left-handed. Also, why are you referring to it as a drug? It is not a drug, it is Dairy."


  • Moderator

    Emelie Penneux, a 25 year-old Inquistan doctoral student of Sunset Pier University, stands up. She quickly cleans her glasses before speaking up in her annoying nasally voice.

    "I have studied the anthropology of the European continent for years, and no country has fascinated me as much as Icholasen has. It's very rare to see a food intolerance be so widespread in a nation, and it's even more fascinating to see so many people of Icholasen suffering from varying degrees of lactose intolerance. You have to remember that the ban on dairy has been set in place in order to protect the people of Icholasen suffer from unnecessary cases of diarrhea, farting and general ill-health. If dairy is allowed, even with ice cream, a national health crisis will ensure. And once ice cream is allowed, what will they be asking for next? The legalisation of cheese? Good heavens no. If the people of Icholasen won't only be falling ill from dairy, but they will be notoriously known as the smelliest people of Europe - due to their vapid farting. Not to mention the fact that the people of Icholasen will gain substantial weight once the delicious ice cream treat is legalised. Trust me, you don't your country full of people looking like Eric Pickles.

    Above that, the culture of Icholasen shall take a hit. I have fallen in love with the culture of Icholasen - and in particular - its ban of dairy. Icholasen is famous for it's widespread lactose intolerance and it's ban on dairy has been documented on many films, documentaries and TV shows. Opening the door to ice cream would detrimental to this fame, and it means that the nations would be conceding to the evil that is dairy.

    Besides it's already been said that dairy will never be legalised. Get over it."



  • Jonny, representing the younger generation opposed what Miss Penneux said. You realise, Miss, that that is the point. People enjoy it. Culture smulture! Who cares? The main point is that the people should be free to decide if they want to take dairy products! Libert? Egalit? Fraternit? is one of the founding principles of our nation, and I'll be bloody well damned if our freedom is taken away. We deserve freedom as a right! We deserve freedom to fart! We deserve freedom to diarrhea! We have freedom to dairy! Icholasen has always been very free (apart from like that one time and that doesn't even count) and we need to always preserve our freedom.



  • The Poll is now closed. The results were 50% by 50%. 4 each way, 8 all together. Because of no decisive answer, Icholasen will hold a Nation-Wide election. Romain, North Regina, South Regina and Portland will all cast their votes. Also, each large city (Saint Regina, Romain and Saint Pierre) will cast a vote. So all together the Regions that will have one vote are:

    Portland
    North Regina
    South Regina
    North Saint Regina (City)
    South Saint Regina (City)
    Romain
    Saint Romain (City)
    Saint Pierre North (City)
    Saint Pierre South (City)

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