Coups in Prussia and Spain



  • My esteemed colleagues;

    These times have been turbulent in some parts of the European Union. We have seen coups in both Prussia and Spain.

    Prussia underwent a two-stage coup, after the Communists exploited their position in a pan-Left coalition to call a referendum abolishing its monarchy- a referendum we found to have severe irregularities- and then appointing a Communist President so he could dismiss Parliament and force a new referendum on a Communist constitution- this referendum again having severe irregularities.

    Not that much news has come from Spain, except that the Spanish military seized control of the Spanish government and established themselves in control. However they have allowed the ousted democratic government's leaders to leave for the Reich. Prussia, however, has demanded that all its citizens or natives living abroad return to Prussia despite asylum requests.

    I would like to invite to the European Council the new leaders of Prussia and Spain to explain their moves, and also the ousted rival governments' leaders to explain their side of the story. From here we shall have to decide as a Union which government to support, whether to exclude these nations from the Council until the Union's favoured government is put in place, whether to comply with the Prussian demand of turning over all citizens, and whether we should act- economically or militarily- against the government judged illegal.



  • Hi all. I'm Felipe S??er and I've been sent to the ilustrious rooms of the European Council to speak on behalf of General Villar's government. Joaqu?n Villar and other army officers, in coordination with high ranking navy officials, took over the government of Spain last November to avoid the country from falling apart because of the leftist government which was driving the country into disintegration with it's self-determination policies towards highly nationalist regions like Catalonia and the Basque Country. We seek no endorsement from the European Union, I've just been to this room to explain the situation to you and let you decide whether to support us or not. In any case, we're not going to give back the government of Spain to Rodr?go Zerezuela or Jos? Bono.


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    As Foreign Affairs Minister and Laeder of Os Corelia's Eropean Representatives we feel keen to place forward a response to Felipe S??er's statement of Governmental intent.

    By stating that you do not seek the approval of the European Union you are seemingly trying to shut the door on your involvement in the European community. Does this mean we can expect the General to sanction a withdrawal of co-operation if we do not bow to your needs? My nation certainly will not allow this.

    We are left in a difficult situation here as while we wish to protect the human rights and free will ofthe people of Spain we also want to avoid unneccessary military intervention. Os Corelia would like assurances from Spain that its citizens willbe given their full human rights and that by way a new democratic pocess can resume.

    There seems to be an intent of avoidance of civil war in this coup but we fear the power the General holds may become such a familiar thing that he would not wish to part it.

    We should send European council inspectors to make sure justice and human rights are being asserted and if no then appropriate sanctions should be decreed.

    Praetor Zeleny



  • QUOTE (Spain @ Dec 8 2009, 12:03 AM)

    Hi all. I'm Felipe S??er and I've been sent to the ilustrious rooms of the European Council to speak on behalf of General Villar's government. Joaqu?n Villar and other army officers, in coordination with high ranking navy officials, took over the government of Spain last November to avoid the country from falling apart because of the leftist government which was driving the country into disintegration with it's self-determination policies towards highly nationalist regions like Catalonia and the Basque Country. We seek no endorsement from the European Union, I've just been to this room to explain the situation to you and let you decide whether to support us or not. In any case, we're not going to give back the government of Spain to Rodr?go Zerezuela or Jos? Bono.

    Mr. Suner, I would like to know if Gen. Villar's government wishes to relaunch the democratic process in Spain. Is this going to happen, or is Gen. Villar going to run the country as a Fascist regime?



  • It is our government's intention to hold a legislative election, with european supervising, as soon as the situation is estabilised enough, but it won't happen before March 2010. Anyway, we're not going to give back the government to Rodrigo Zerezuela until elections are celebrated, and then, only if he gets elected. It is not our intention to create a fascist, militaristic regime in Spain.



  • Well that is good.



  • Panzeri stood to speak.

    "Presidenta Pallotti of Nazione Italiana has asked me to deliver our official stance:

    Nazione Italiana will not deport any otherwise law-abiding citizens of Spain or Prussia, who claim refuge within her boarders, back to their homelands in response to a demand made by any nation. We respect the right of a person to free a dangerous or oppressive situation."


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    Os Corelia are happy with Mr Suner's statement and hope this is agreed. We would like the election and parliament infrastructure to be mapped out just to settle any concerns we may have.



  • The recent coups in these two nations have caused the level of piracy to rise in the waters surrounding both Prussia and Spain, particularly in the Persian Gulf. For our nation this area is of deep importance for trade and recently many of our merchant vessels have come under attack by pirates. We request that the governments of these respective nations take action on this occurrence. As we depend greatly on trade to maintain a decent living standard for our citizens, if the problem is not resolved by the respective nations we will be forced to enter the area with a naval presence in order to sort out the problem ourselves.

    We would be most gratefull if the Spanish and Prussian governments could reduce the level of piracy in the region as Unfreedomian intelligence has informed us that the pirates are Spainish and Prussian nationals.



  • QUOTE (Premier Aran @ Dec 16 2009, 06:45 PM)

    The recent coups in these two nations have caused the level of piracy to rise in the waters surrounding both Prussia and Spain, particularly in the Persian Gulf. For our nation this area is of deep importance for trade and recently many of our merchant vessels have come under attack by pirates. We request that the governments of these respective nations take action on this occurrence. As we depend greatly on trade to maintain a decent living standard for our citizens, if the problem is not resolved by the respective nations we will be forced to enter the area with a naval presence in order to sort out the problem ourselves.

    We would be most gratefull if the Spanish and Prussian governments could reduce the level of piracy in the region as Unfreedomian intelligence has informed us that the pirates are Spainish and Prussian nationals.

    Oh I highly doubt Prussia's government allows its people to see the sea, let alone commit piracy in it!



  • There are no such activities taking place in our territorial waters and no Spanish citizen has been engaged in piracy activities! Those claims are nothing but an attempt to undermine the reputation of our government and our nation.



  • Considering that your country has recently undergone a dramatic change of government how can you be sure that there are not indeed pirates origninally from spain in the persian gulf.

    We do not blame your government for their existence, as there are bound to be some rebelious factions when a country undergoes a large reform, we merely wish for you to eradicate the problem as it is damaging our trade with other nations. If you do not accept that these pirates do exist we will be forced to send our navy into these waters in order to dispose of the pirates ourselves.


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    The Council of Ministers and the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the USSR will be informed of the claims put forward by the Unfreedomian ambassador and will be investigated. However, I wish to let the Council know that the USSR has faith in the stability of Prussia as a socialist state, and in Spain despite the ideological differences present.



  • We are grateful for your interest in the matter at hand and appreciate the launching of an investgation. In the meantime, whilst the investigation gets underway we will be escoritng merchant vessels bring imports and exports into Unfreedomia with a millitary convoy of naval vessels in order to protect them.

    This will be a time consuming and costly solution and so cannot be permanent and we would urge that any investigation be done as quickly and efficiently as possible.



  • Our internal intelligence services have been able to verify the veracity of the Unfreedomian government's suspicion of pirate activity being conducted in Spanish waters by catalan independentists who are trying to fund their activities by means like piracy and drug traficking and make use of the Spanish tricolor to try to make our country an unsafer place to live at. Because of that, we have decided to indefinitely postpone elections in our country while our government tries to estabilise the situation in our territorial waters.



  • As the existence and activities of these pirates prove to be a nuissance, mutually, we would hope that our two nations can work together to eradicate them. I suggest that our naval commanders meet in order to devise an effective strategy to do this.



  • The silence was deafening. However, the King stood anyways.

    After inquiry of the situation at hand, the Empire would like to express our opinions on the subject.

    The Spaniards apparently have piracy involved in the equation; however, that does not give you the right to postpone elections indefinitely. Should the Catalans want independence, I strongly suggest you allow them a referenda for independence; if 75% want one then you should give them it. Then you could restart elections.

    As for Prussia, there is not much debate given; thus, I cannot form any opinion on this matter.

    /s/ King Iain I.



  • OOC: Okay, final edit.

    IC: Texacano recognizes the legitimacy of the present governments in both its southern neighbors, and offers its assistance to both governments in stabilizing. Two special forces divisions have been set aside to this end and are at the disposal of both governments, one each, for any task deemed necessary.

    Not being much of a seafaring nation, our assistance with the pirating problem would be mostly useless. However, at the behest of our Spanish friends, we will deploy as many as thirty of our brown water patrol boats to the Gulf to serve as escorts.

    As much as we would like to see democratic Spanish elections, we respect the decision to postpone elections to ensure security.


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