SECOND PROPOSED BUDGET OF THE EUROPEAN UNION FOR 2023-2024

Istkalen

We must fund the Union, and we must do it now. Istkalen thus fully supports this budget.

Iras Tilkanas
Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

Spain

Cllr. Mizrachi-Roscoe, it is not anti-European to slash the European Development Agency's budget if they have funds left and the new sum is enough. Money is being invested there and not being spent, so we invest less and destiny all those funds to other initiatives that also need the money. It is redistributing what we spend, nothing further than that. And by the way, you come here hugging the European values because of convenience, not because of true beliefs. We have seen you defend quite the opposite in this Chamber, and to be honest, no one can actually believe your arguments anymore.

Going on, the thing about the first proposed budget is that it was not a bad budget, it was a great budget. The work made by the Commission was perfect, and only your personal and political interest, alongside swaying other votes with, I guess, fake promises and who knows what more, shot it down. By the way, Councillor: what do we have to see with political alliances? They are not European Union agencies, institutions or whatsoever, they are private alliances between member states. Their advances or benefits are irrelevant to us, we are not their legislators and surely, we cannot act at their compass. If someone is not in an alliance with certain policies, I wonder why they would want those policies in Europe when it is possible to have them without damaging others. Yet, you do not understand this.

Donald Tusk
Council Speaker and Councillor for Spain

BrumBrum

We don't know if it will be enough but what we do know is it sets a precedent that it is okay to cut the allocation for the EDA . That is a precedent I am not interested in starting , no agency should have their allocation cut as it sets a precedent its okay to cut the allocation while revenues are stable or growing. It is anti-european to cut allocations so significantly for agencies and it is that simple. I will always oppose the slashing of budgets. If anything we need to be spending more of the budget by setting up systems to more efficiently run the application processes to get more applications and we need expand the areas EU agencies can spend money on to make the EU actually significant in peoples lives, not just a good idea with unrealised potential.Are you on the side of the EU or against it and supporting cuts in allocations setting a precedent for future cuts in fundings.

I also find it funny you now say the EU being outspent is not an issue when an agency called the European Green Fund was set up and has given out 10's of billions in loans and grants was set up because the EU refused Duchian government money it was seen as undermining the EU. So which is it? Or is it whatever argument is convenient at the time?

James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

Spain

Debate is now over. My apologies for the severe delay. It is time to vote on the proposed amendments. There are TWO amendments up to vote:

Amendment I - Proposed by Speaker Tusk
European Development Agency: ~~47,600,000,000.00€~~ 25,000,000,000.00€

Amendment II - Proposed by Speaker Tusk
European Space Administration: ~~000,000,000.01€~~ 30,000,000.00€

Voting on amendments will commence NOW and will last until 18:09 GMT on April 1st, 2024.

I vote FOR all amendments.

Donald Tusk
Council Speaker and Councillor for Spain

Istkalen

I vote AGAINST both amendments.

Iras Tilkanas
Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

Czech Slavia

I vote AGAINST Amendment I and FOR Amendment II.

Sofie Čikarová
Councilor for Czech Slavia

Istkalen

May we move to final voting?

Iras Tilkanas
Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

Spain

My excuses for the delay. Voting on the amendments has concluded. The voting results are the following:

With 1 vote FOR and 2 votes AGAINST, Amendment I has FAILED.
With 2 votes FOR and 1 vote AGAINST, Amendment II has PASSED.

The proposal has been updated accordingly.

Final voting begins NOW and will last until 09:46 GMT on July 25th, 2024.

On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this Budget.

Donald Tusk
Council Speaker and Councillor for Spain

California

On behalf of the United Kingdom, I vote for the budget.

Caroline Lucas

BrumBrum

On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this budget
Skye Hook , Deputy Councillour for United Duchies