Amendment to European Council Political Groups Act 2016
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I would hardly call a two person political group a living organisation that has any potential. With all do respect, but I feel that I have exhausted all the reason to not support this bill to the Councillor from Inquista. Yet he is adamant on supporting this naively written bill. I would, of course, support more political groups in this chamber but ones that actually have potential to be meaningful to pass good laws.
I commend the Councillor from Inquista for throwing out an illegitimate Chancellor, but to sponsor a bill that this Council has condemned does not merit, in my government's opinion, appraisal.
Su Tevfik
European Councillor from the Court of Osman -
I gave several examples of how eurogroups and europarties could grow from just having two members. I suppose the UEC and EFP were useless organization which had no "potential". Both became the most dominant forces in the regional for quite a long time. You've exhausted your argument because it is absurd. Apparently, nothing ever grows, even though this region has several successful cases demonstrating otherwise. Not only do things never grow according to your logic, but they shouldn't even be allowed to have the potential to grow.
Anyway, I need to stop using examples and stating facts about past europarties or eurogroups. As the leader and founder of the EPA - the largest and only eurgroup - and as a successor of Alexander Kligenberg's legacy as Councillor - who help found the EPA - I clearly know nothing about the potential of eurogroups. Glad that Councillor Tevfik has finally enlightened me and the region on the matter.
Edward Firoux
Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista -
Eurogroups do have potential, and but not how they are currently operated. They're limiting instead of expanding what the old Europarties were able to do. Lowering the threshold to two Councillor will help a little bit. What we should do is remove the limit on a Councillor only being allowed to be a member of only one Eurogroup at a time. This will allow for the creation of single-issue caucuses such as a Denuclearisation caucus etc. We could have informal groups, however, without making these official Eurogroups it ends up just relegating the Eurogroup we have to being a failed Europarty effectively.
What I would like to see to help this as well, is allow national parties to become associate organizations to Eurogroups. Eurogroups would still be organized, and regulated by the Council. But by introducing national parties as associate organizations it will showcase the practical application of Eurogroups at the national level. For example Cllr. Firoux before the military coup in Icholasen, you were taking part in their primary process for one of their Cllr. nominees. That's the real potential of Eurogroups, however, as is they are drastically limited in what they should be doing.
Cllr. Carita Falk
Archrepublic of Vayinaod -
At the moment, we only have an Eurogroup, the European Progressive Alliance, and do you know why? Because of the lack of interest by other councillors to try searching for new members for them. The European Liberals have dissapeared, and now it's the EPA the one that keeps alive. At the moemnt, we must start thinking on our democracy, and also say: "We need to enocurage people to have diverse ideas". Why? Because that's what democracy is about. If you don't agree with that, maybe you should ask yourself if you are a democratic person, or else, your country is democratic.
This will of course have my complete support, as I'd like to see more divrse ideas in the European Union. But please, if you want to make your own Eurogroup, think that you'll have to keep it active, and much important, you'll have to search for new members. If you aren't able to do that, you'd like to think 2 times about doing an Eurogroup.
Cllr. Donald D. Tusk
Councillor for Spain -
Final voting begins NOW and will last until 23:15 GMT on April 8th, 2020.
On hehalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this amendment.
Edward Firoux
Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista -
On behalf of the Kingdom of Gallorum, I vote FOR this amendment.
Marion Rousselot
Deputy Speaker, Councillor for the Kingdom of Gallorum -
The Kingdom of Fremet votes FOR this amendment.
Charles Michel
Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet -
The Ottoman State votes AGAINST this admendment.
Su Tevfik
European Councillor from the Court of Osman -
On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote FOR this amendment.
Friedrich van Allen
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag -
On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote FOR this act.
Carita Falk
Councillor for the Archrepublic of Vayinaod -
On behalf of the United Dominions of Icholasen, I vote FOR this amendment.
Councillor (Duchess) Poppy Carlton-Romanov
The United Dominions of Icholasen -
On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this act.
Cllr. Donald. D. Tusk
Councillor for Spain -
With 7 votes FOR and 1 vote AGAINST, this amendment has PASSED.
The European Council Political Groups Act of 2016 will be ammended accordingly.
Edward Firoux
Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista
The Kingdom of Spain
