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    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by Inquista

      SECTION IV. BALANCING THE BUDGET

      1. Balancing the budget for this purpose shall be defined as finding a way to make the total revenue of the European Union greater than or equal to the total expenses and debt of the European Union.
        a. Debt of the European Union includes any and all expenditures by the European Union that results in borrowed funds either from nations within the European Union or separate entities.
        b. Total revenue of the European Union includes revenue generated from taxes, Eurozone bond sales, donations, and revenue generated from government programs.

      2. The responsibility of balancing the budget is given to the Premier Commissioner and the governments of each member-state European Council by submitting a breakdown of their own contributions.

      3. A budget shall be produced at the beginning of every fiscal year.
        a. Each budget proposal must be declared a proposal or draft at the time of production contribution outline must be submitted before the 31st of January of every year.
        b. The finalized budget must be submitted to the European Central Bank before the 31st of January of every year for distribution.

      4. A budget must be approved by council vote before it can be implemented The final breakdown of the European Budget shall be properly arranged by the Premier Commissioner who shall review and submit it to the European Central Bank.
        a. A supermajority will be required to approve of a budget.

      5. The final budget shall be composed of budget shares for each active European agency and the following additional sectors:
      a. Administration - in the form of the European institutions
      b. Emergency response
      c. Fund Assistance - funds that may be borrowed by each member-state as a loan
      d. Debts Payment
      e. Structural Maintenances - for the maintenance of architectural projects of the European Union


      Colleagues, I found from my recent analysis that it would be better to let the member-states decide on where they want their budget contributions to go. And I do believe that giving the responsibility of balancing the European Budget to only a single person would be very stressful. Managing billions of euros is not a joke and this must be taken very seriously, the purpose of this amendment is to reduce the burden of the Premier Commissioner who is currently in charge of the European Budget and to also protect the interests of the member-states.

      Friedrich van Allen
      Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

      alt text

      HM King George
      Monarch

      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
      Prime Minister

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      • Inquista
        Inquista last edited by Inquista

        Debate starts NOW and will last until 02:45 GMT on July 14th, 2020.

        I am very much against this whole thing.

        Clause 2 is terrible. It is the responsibility of whoever makes the budget, to balance it. In this case, it's the economics commissioner, who is now the Premier Commissioner. Member states do not individually draft our budget. The sentence implies that the member states will be drafting the budget. Furthermore, we already know what the contributions of member states are, it's 0.1% of their total GDP. Now, I do think I know what you're trying to imply here, which is that member states should decide where their contributions go. However, not only has it not been correctly worded nor correctly placed as such in the amendment, but I disagree with the whole premise. All of the EU's institutions shall be funded, and all of them shall be funded by all the member states. We're not going into the territory of member states picking and choosing what to fund, because then we're jeopardizing all our institutions.

        Clause 3 was literally fine as it was, but you've just made made it worse.

        Clause 4 is an actual abomination. You want the Council to get no say on the budget? It's our job, as a legislature, to approve of the budget for all of our institutions. I don't see why we shouldn't be consulted on the matter, but apparently you want the Central Bank to give input on it. Imagine if countries allowed their central banks to run their budgets instead of their legislatures? Massive yikes. Your entire argument also makes no sense. You think a budget is too much of a burden for the Premier, but you still want the Premier to do it anyway, with the help of the Central Bank, instead of the Council? This is nonsensical.

        Edward Firoux
        Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

        siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
        Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
        Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
        Councillor Karinn Lallana

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        • Kingdom of Reitzmag
          Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by Kingdom of Reitzmag

          Mr. Speaker, I understand your criticisms and for sure I know how I would amend this act. And yes, here are my proposed amendments:

          1. The responsibility of balancing the budget is given to the Premier Commissioner and the governments of each member-state European Council by submitting a breakdown of their own contributions.

          2. A budget shall be produced at the beginning of every fiscal year.
            a. Each budget proposal must be declared a proposal or draft at the time of production contribution outline must be submitted before the 31st of January of every year.
            b. The finalized budget must be submitted to the European Central Bank before the 31st of January of every year for distribution.

          4. A budget must be approved by council vote before it can be implemented The final breakdown of the European Budget shall be properly arranged by the Premier Commissioner who shall review and submit it to the European Central Bank.
          a. A supermajority will be required to approve of a budget.

          1. Each budget contribution breakdownThe final budget shall be composed of budget shares for each active European agency and the following additional sectors:
            a. Administration - in the form of the European institutions
            b. Emergency response
            c. Fund Assistance - funds that may be borrowed by each member-state as a loan
            d. Debts Payment
            e. Structural Maintenances - for the maintenance of architectural projects of the European Union

          alt text

          HM King George
          Monarch

          Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
          Prime Minister

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          • Vayinaod
            Vayinaod EU last edited by

            "I agree with Speaker Firoux on every single point he made.

            I think there is a much bigger implication here, and that is very obviously Cllr. Van Allen in the never ending feud with Commissioner Juncker wants to ensure that if the Commissioner has a project that benefits all of Europe, then no Reitzmic money should go to it, or well very likely any ELDR member they could convince. All the while stuffing money into projects they prefer.

            We can not subjugate the region to partisanship when it comes to the budget. The initial proposal would have had done just that. European Agencies would end up kissing up to member-state governments to get their money, there would be no accountability from the council just from the European Central Bank. The ECB is only there for monetary policy support, it is not intended for fiscal responsibilities those are two wholly different topics of governance.

            Amending clause 3 is entirely dependent on a dysfunctional clause 2. Speaker Firoux put it best, "it was fine as is".

            Clause 4 disregards the principles of the current EU constitution, and undermines the idea of the council being the supreme authority of the Union's policy direction. The Premier is able to draft a budget just fine with the help of their fellow commissioners, EU Councillors, and I'm sure an army of interns at their disposal. The premier is not just some office assistant who will just combine, "contributions" into one big spread sheet its far more complicated than that, but complicated does not mean its outside the realm of their abilities.

            Clause 5 is pointless. I don't know what else to say beyond that.

            But then Cllr. Van Allen you decide to toss out all your ideas for the sake of what? Amending the act just to amend the act? There's still no point to Clause 5, and I still have no idea why the budget must be submitted to a monetary policy agency. ""

            Carita Falk
            Archrepublic of Vayinaod

            Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
            Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
            EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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            • Kingdom of Reitzmag
              Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

              Ms. Falk, I have not much to say anymore. I have already proposed an amendment to this motion that I see would satisfy you. I hope you would carefully read it and understand its objectives.

              Friedrich van Allen
              Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

              alt text

              HM King George
              Monarch

              Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
              Prime Minister

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by

                So here we have the example on how Reitzmag tries to make the European Union worst. And if anyone wondered, I agree with Councillors Falk and Firoux on every single word, and I'm explaining why.

                Firstly, the European Budget is supposed to be made by the Premier Commissioner, who is Eilidh Whiteford. We all here know that you, Cllr. van Allen, hate the European Progressive Alliance, hate that your friend Atty. Winston aka European Destroyer lost the Commission Elections that took place on May and June and you hate to take part in projects you don't like because Mr. Juncker or Ms. Whiteford or even Mr. Reynels were the ones that made the proposals. The removal of their competences will just make the Commission to have stupid functions. Mr. van Allen, tell me the truth: If Atty. Winston would be the Internal Affairs Commissioner, would you have submitted this amendment? I imagine that you will answer yes, but as Reitzmag's politics are always upside-down, the real answer will be no.

                Councillor van Allen, do you consider youself as democratic? If you do, then Clause 4 is completely opposed to your principles. Cllr. Firoux had to tell you that you were not going to vote the budget and you come with an amendment to stop the sinking of your boat. I think that the Reitzmic boats sank some time ago, but dreaming is very useful. And Clause 5, Cllr. Falk told what I really think about it, no need to repeat the words.

                Donald D. Tusk
                Councillor for Spain

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • Inquista
                  Inquista last edited by

                  Debate has now ended. Voting on amendments has now begun and will last until 09:15 GMT on July 17th, 2020.

                  There is just one amendment, proposed by Cllr. Van Allen:

                  Amendment
                  2. The responsibility of balancing the budget is given to the Premier Commissioner and the governments of each member-state European Council by submitting a breakdown of their own contributions.

                  1. A budget shall be produced at the beginning of every fiscal year.
                    a. Each budget proposal must be declared a proposal or draft at the time of production contribution outline must be submitted before the 31st of January of every year.
                    b. The finalized budget must be submitted to the European Central Bank before the 31st of January of every year for distribution.

                  4. A budget must be approved by council vote before it can be implemented The final breakdown of the European Budget shall be properly arranged by the Premier Commissioner who shall review and submit it to the European Central Bank.
                  a. A supermajority will be required to approve of a budget.

                  1. Each budget contribution breakdownThe final budget shall be composed of budget shares for each active European agency and the following additional sectors:
                    a. Administration - in the form of the European institutions
                    b. Emergency response
                    c. Fund Assistance - funds that may be borrowed by each member-state as a loan
                    d. Debts Payment
                    e. Structural Maintenances - for the maintenance of architectural projects of the European Union

                  I vote FOR the amendment.

                  Edward Firoux
                  Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                  siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                  Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                  Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                  Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                  • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                    Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                    I vote FOR this amendment.

                    Friedrich van Allen
                    Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

                    alt text

                    HM King George
                    Monarch

                    Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                    Prime Minister

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                    • Spain
                      Spain last edited by

                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this amendment.

                      Donald D. Tusk
                      Councillor for Spain

                      The Kingdom of Spain
                      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                      • Vayinaod
                        Vayinaod EU last edited by

                        I vote FOR this amendment.

                        Carita Falk
                        Cllr. for the Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                        Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                        Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                        EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                        • Leagio
                          Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                          I vote FOR this amendment.

                          Francis Plessis
                          EU Councilor for Leagio

                          President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                          Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                          EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                          • Fremet
                            Fremet EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I vote FOR this amendment.

                            Charles Michel
                            Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                            Statsminister Erna Solberg
                            EU Cllr Charles Michel
                            #FortressFremet

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                            • Inquista
                              Inquista last edited by Inquista

                              With 5 votes for, this amendment has PASSED. The legislation has been amended accordingly.

                              Final voting begins now and will last until 10:00 GMT on July 20th, 2020.

                              On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote AGAINST this amendment to the European Budget Act.

                              Edward Firoux
                              Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                              siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                              Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                              Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                              Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                              • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                Friedrich van Allen
                                Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

                                alt text

                                HM King George
                                Monarch

                                Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                Prime Minister

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                                • Spain
                                  Spain last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                  Donald D. Tusk
                                  Councillor for Spain

                                  The Kingdom of Spain
                                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                  • Vayinaod
                                    Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                    Carita Falk
                                    Cllr. for the Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                                    Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                    Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                    EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                    • Fremet
                                      Fremet EU last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                      Charles Michel
                                      Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                                      Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                      EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                      #FortressFremet

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                                      • Duxburian Union
                                        Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I vote AGAINST the amendment.

                                        Wesley Greene
                                        Councillor of the Duxburian Union

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                                        • Leagio
                                          Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                          Francis Plessis
                                          Councilor of the Commonwealth of Leagio

                                          President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                          Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                          EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                            As I believe this proposal of mine has been bombarded by my colleagues, I request to withdraw this proposal at once.

                                            Friedrich van Allen
                                            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

                                            alt text

                                            HM King George
                                            Monarch

                                            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                            Prime Minister

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