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    Loan Request for the Commonwealth of Leagio

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    • Duxburian Union
      Duxburian Union EU last edited by Duxburian Union

      I have no idea what a race or a slave is, but I can understand there being a strong cultural basis for intervening in situations that you find unjust. Still, military operations are expensive and money doesn't grow on trees. If that's a national priority, something else has to give - a government can't afford to do everything even if people accept being taxed through the roof and even if every cost that can be cut is cut. Government services for true needs have to take priority over luxuries - foreign military intervention is a luxury. The EU doesn't exist to provide your country with necessities so it can go off pursuing luxuries.

      That said, green energy is one of those things that improves the world even if the project is in one member state, so we are still willing to entertain the idea under the right conditions. I still have some other concerns now that you've explained the situation in the east better:

      • If there are damaging sand storms in the area that destroy electrical infrastructure, why haven't you buried the power lines? Granted, that's expensive, but we did it in Verintono, a city of 12 million, and we had to drill through solid bedrock to do it, not dig through easy dirt and sand. The EU didn't pay for it, either.

      • Along a similar line of thought, how do you plan to operate solar or wind farms in the desert areas that need the power and see the big storms? Solar, in particular, is highly vulnerable to wind damage, and neither can be buried.

      • If the East is essentially a far-flung, rural area with low population, why aren't people generating their own power on their land? Solar panels on a house roof can power the entire house, backed up with an on-site battery and a regular grid connection. Personal power can also be much more easily protected from storms with sliding shutters, no poles to worry about. You also don't lose huge percentages of the generated electricity trying to transmit it long distances. Again, this is just food for thought and might not be viable in your country, I don't live there and thus don't know the situation on the ground.

      We have a large desert in my country and the population there knows the consequences of living there. They have to take personal responsibility for their choice to continue to settle a desert. There is no entitlement to European funds or even federal funds there. When they have major needs, they have to raise taxes or cut costs to fund them. If they can't, they need to give things up until they can. Infra is a core government service and financing it with international debt is not sustainable or a substitute for taxation or cutting costs.

      I am not completely opposed to the loan, but I am still seeing it as a service your government needs to provide for its citizens and not one the EU needs to provide. If your government can't afford infra, it needs to take the appropriate measures to - raise revenue from its own people or cut expenditures, like every other country in the EU has to. Either option has drawbacks, but that's life. I am currently thinking Leagio is overly entitled / wants the EU to bail it out of its own national obligations to its people - change my mind?

      Wesley Greene
      Councillor of the Duxburian Union

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      • Inquista
        Inquista last edited by Inquista

        Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. There are two amendments, both proposed by Councillor Greene. The amendments are thus:

        Amendment I
        Section I
        III. 3% annual interest will be applied on this loan, renegotiable annually. If the loan is paid in full on time, all collected interest will be refunded, adjusted for inflation.

        Amendment II
        Section I
        VI. In case Leagio falls into bankruptcy, the European Union will remove the quantity left to pay by Leagio from a rescue fund for the nation.

        Voting on amendments will commence NOW and will last until 02:15 GMT on September 22nd, 2020.


        I vote FOR both proposed amendments.

        Edward Firoux
        Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

        siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
        Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
        Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
        Councillor Karinn Lallana

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        • Fremet
          Fremet EU last edited by

          I vote FOR both amendments as proposed.

          Charles Michel
          Councilor for the Kingdom of Fremet

          Statsminister Erna Solberg
          EU Cllr Charles Michel
          #FortressFremet

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          • Spain
            Spain last edited by

            I vote FOR both amendments.

            Donald D. Tusk
            Councillor for Spain

            The Kingdom of Spain
            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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            • Nofoaga
              Nofoaga EU last edited by

              I vote FOR both amendments.

              Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
              EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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              • Inquista
                Inquista last edited by

                With 4 votes for, Amendments I and II have both PASSED. The legislation has been updated to reflect the passed amendments.

                Final voting begins now and will last until 09:30 GMT on September 25th, 2020.

                On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this loan request.

                Edward Firoux
                Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                • Spain
                  Spain last edited by

                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this loan request.

                  Donald D. Tusk
                  Councillor for Spain

                  The Kingdom of Spain
                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                  • Nofoaga
                    Nofoaga EU last edited by

                    On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote FOR this loan request.

                    Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                    EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                    • Duxburian Union
                      Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                      On behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I ABSTAIN from voting on the request.

                      Wesley Greene
                      Councillor of the Duxburian Union

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                      • Fayrrendel
                        Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                        On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I ABSTAIN from voting on this loan request.

                        Helhuan Zihuruthstukur
                        EU Councillor, Ruthund

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                        • Leagio
                          Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                          On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I ABSTAIN as i feel that this will be a conflict of interest for me to cast a vote.

                          Francis Plessis
                          EU Councilor for Leagio

                          President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                          Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                          EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Retzmag, I vote FOR this act.

                            Friedrich van Allen
                            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                            HM King George
                            Monarch

                            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                            Prime Minister

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                            • Inquista
                              Inquista last edited by

                              With four votes FOR, this loan request has been PASSED.

                              Edward Firoux
                              Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                              siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                              Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                              Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                              Councillor Karinn Lallana

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