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    Amendment to the European Council Political Groups Act 2016

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    • Spain
      Spain last edited by

      Debate on this shall CONTINUE until 14:24 GMT on January 3rd, 2022.

      Donald Tusk
      Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

      The Kingdom of Spain
      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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      • Inimicus
        Inimicus EU last edited by

        The Empire of Inimicus supports the idea of this Act. Inimician Councillors have not been part of Eurogroups or Europarties or whatever the present incarnation may be termed, for over half a decade now. We see no real benefit to Eurogroups, and would rather they were done away with altogether. I nevertheless want to ask Cllr Tilkanas, whose good intentions with this proposal I fully appreciate, what purpose her including prospective Councillors, i.e. those standing in national elections to this Council, in her proposed ban on Associate Membership. If Eurogroups are to survive, should voters not be given transparency on which Eurogroup their candidates would join?

        Nicholas Benfield
        Empire of Inimicus

        The Empire of Inimicus
        Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
        Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
        Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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        • Spain
          Spain last edited by Spain

          I would like to offer my partial support to Councillor Tilkanas on this amendment, but I need to ask a question to the honourable Istkalenian Councillor whom I wish could also answer Councillor Benield's questions to finally decide what I will do. My question is about the removal of Article IV within Section II, would its removal mean no Eurogroup would be allowed to campaign for a candidate for the European Commission?

          To allow Councillor Tilkanas answer Mr. Benfield and my questions, Debate will be extended for 48 hours, until 20:00 GMT on January 5th, 2022.

          Donald Tusk
          Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

          The Kingdom of Spain
          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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          • Istkalen
            Istkalen EU last edited by

            The restrictions I proposed are solely meant to reduce the level of politicking that I have seen in recent months, which have been high and have contributed to intense and polarizing discourse. I will consent to an amendment allowing candidates for the position of Councillor to be members of Eurogroups - but not members of the Commission. Allowing members of the Commission to be members of Eurogroups has caused the Council to become background for Commission elections, which have overtaken every other aspect of regional politics and become incredibly toxic. Removing Eurogroups from this context will hopefully reduce this toxicity and also restore the importance of the Council over the Commission.

            In this vein, I propose the following amendment. Some

            AMENDMENT I

            SECTION III. MEMBERSHIP OF POLITICAL GROUPS

            1. Membership of Political Groups is restricted to individual European Councillors.

            2. Associate Membership is restricted to European Commissioners, current candidates in elections to the European Commission or in national elections to the European Council interim and deputy councillors serving on a temporary basis due to the incapacitation or absence of a nation's main councillor, in addition to current candidates in national elections to the European Council.
              a) Individuals and entities not belonging to these categories who are currently associate members of Political Groups are to be immediately expelled.

            Iras Tilkanas
            Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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            • Inimicus
              Inimicus EU last edited by

              The Empire of Inimicus will support this amendment, and with it, the larger Amendment to the Act.

              Nicholas Benfield

              The Empire of Inimicus
              Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
              Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
              Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by

                Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. There is ONE amendment, which has been proposed by Cllr. Tilkanas. The amendment is thus:

                Amendment I - Cllr. Tilkanas

                SECTION III. MEMBERSHIP OF POLITICAL GROUPS

                1. Membership of Political Groups is restricted to individual European Councillors.
                2. Associate Membership is restricted to European Commissioners, current candidates in elections to the European Commission or in national elections to the European Council interim and deputy councillors serving on a temporary basis due to the incapacitation or absence of a nation's main councillor, in addition to current candidates in national elections to the European Council.
                  a) Individuals and entities not belonging to these categories who are currently associate members of Political Groups are to be immediately expelled.

                Voting on amendments will commence NOW and will last until 16:12 GMT on January 13th, 2022.


                I vote AGAINST the amendment.

                Donald Tusk
                Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • Inimicus
                  Inimicus EU last edited by

                  The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR the Amendment.

                  Nicholas Benfield

                  The Empire of Inimicus
                  Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                  Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                  Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                  • BrumBrum
                    BrumBrum Commission @Inimicus last edited by BrumBrum

                    On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST this ammendment
                    James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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                    • Istkalen
                      Istkalen EU last edited by

                      On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.

                      I would also like to request a voting extension.

                      Iras Tilkanas
                      Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                      • GANIA
                        GANIA EU last edited by

                        EUROPE:
                        On behalf of the Federal Republic of Gania, we communicate our vote that AGAINST

                        counselor FOR GANIA
                        Pedro Bordaberry

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                        • Spain
                          Spain last edited by

                          Voting on amendments has concluded, after being extended for two extra days. With 2 votes FOR and 3 votes AGAINST, Amendment I has been REJECTED.


                          Final voting begins NOW and will last until 11:30 GMT on January 18th, 2022.

                          Donald Tusk
                          Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                          The Kingdom of Spain
                          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                          • Istkalen
                            Istkalen EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.

                            Iras Tilkanas
                            Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                            • Inimicus
                              Inimicus EU last edited by

                              Unfortunately, due to the rejection of Cllr Tilkanas's amendment, the Empire of Inimicus must vote AGAINST this proposal.

                              Nicholas Benfield
                              Deputy Speaker and Cllr for Inimicus

                              The Empire of Inimicus
                              Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                              Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                              Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                              • Spain
                                Spain last edited by

                                On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                Donald Tusk
                                Councillor for Spain

                                The Kingdom of Spain
                                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                • Istkalen
                                  Istkalen EU last edited by

                                  Voting has ended. With one vote FOR and two votes AGANST, this amendment has FAILED.

                                  Iras Tilkanas
                                  Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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