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    Ammendment to EUROPEAN DEVELOPMENT AGENCY ACT

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    • Istkalen
      Istkalen EU last edited by

      No.

      Debate begins NOW and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 13 May 2023.

      Iras Tilkanas
      Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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      • Spain
        Spain last edited by Spain

        No, gracias.

        Donald Tusk
        Councillor for Spain

        The Kingdom of Spain
        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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        • BrumBrum
          BrumBrum Commission @Spain last edited by BrumBrum

          I do challenge those opposing this as to why? The system we have right now is far too centralised and inflexible. We expect three commissioners to vote on potentially 1,000's of applications after having read them and expect companies and organisations to go to Europolis if they need a face to face meeting about the application. This is inefficient and also expensive making smaller applications for funding unviable. With this we would actually have a chance to get all the money out to actual development , as of now the commission has approve 0 Euros of development funds and this is pretty common and will always be an issue as long as it is so centralised. No other multi-billion euro grant agency centres all decision making on a central 3 commissioners , it is normal to delegate granting of funding to more local offices basically in any other multi-billion Euro organisation, by voting against this you are voting to never get funding out and continue the attrocious record of the EDA in getting any grant money or loans out to where it is needed.You are holding back the unleashing of the power of the EU, we need change and we need people giving funding to be local and understand local conditions and culture something a centralised office in Europolis will never be able to do as efficiently.

          I ask this would you have a hospital director or national health service manager approve every medicine and treatment individually in a hospital or would you rather set guidelines and policy and then have doctors and nurses who know each individual patient decide on the course of treatment. You'd do the the latter because otherwise everyone would have to wait months or years for treatment killing many patients just as the current system kills many grants and applications by being far too slow.

          James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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          • Istkalen
            Istkalen EU last edited by

            We cannot give carte blanche to corruption. I recognize, however, the need for reform, and would like to tentatively propose delegating the approval of projects that request, say, less than 5 or so percent of the fund to a more bureaucratic administration better able to manage.

            Iras Tilkanas
            Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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            • BrumBrum
              BrumBrum Commission @Istkalen last edited by

              I agree when you spend billions on a project you want to get good oversight. I would argue this bill protects against corruption in the form of the EU appointing half the national board, allowing citizens to report not only corruption but wasteful spending and allowing an imposition of an emergency board if corruption is found as well as allowing reclaiming of funds. This is not by any means a carte blanche on corruption I will however in spirit of this concern add an additional amendment

              X.If any government is found to be misusing money or using money in a fraudulant manner the EDA and Commissioners may take them to the European Court of Justice which may then impose a fine of up to 1.5 times the amount of the funds misused as well as block any access to any financial support for any schemes from the EU until appropiate anti-corruption reforms are instituted.

              Whatever your concerns are around corruption it is clear three already busy commissioners cannot handle applications and this has been demonstrated by the lack of EDA funds given out. I would also be happy for the EDA head to be elected or selected by all nations governments and parliaments in a manner of the countries choosing for their vote to seperated out the grant deciding freeing up the other commissioners to do their main jobs of talking to nations and coming up with big picture solutions. What is clear is the current system doesn't work , as 0 Euros has been given out in 6 months so far. We have 47 billion Euros sitting there just not being spent that is 47 billion euros that needs to be spent and that could have otherwise if its not going to be spent be currently being spent by governments in their own nation states rather than paying an EU membership fee for the money to be sitting in an EU agency account for a year before being returned. Frankly if I gave a department or worker a task and it wasn't done or money and it was just sitting there for 6 months in business without even being processed I would be firing that department or worker yet we are letting incompetence happen here in the EU that is actively harming the European people.

              James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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              • Istkalen
                Istkalen EU last edited by

                Debate will be extended to 23:59 GMT on 27 May 2023.

                Iras Tilkanas
                Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                • Istkalen
                  Istkalen EU last edited by

                  Debate has ended. Final voting begins now and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 8th June 2023.

                  Iras Tilkanas
                  Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                  • Spain
                    Spain last edited by

                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this act.

                    Donald Tusk
                    Councillor for Spain

                    The Kingdom of Spain
                    His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                    President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                    Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                    • Istkalen
                      Istkalen EU last edited by

                      Many apologies, as I have missed an amendment. One amendment has been proposed, as follows;


                      AMENDMENT I
                      X.If any government is found to be misusing money or using money in a fraudulant manner the EDA and Commissioners may take them to the European Court of Justice which may then impose a fine of up to 1.5 times the amount of the funds misused as well as block any access to any financial support for any schemes from the EU until appropiate anti-corruption reforms are instituted.


                      Amendment voting begins now and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 8th June 2023.

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                      • BrumBrum
                        BrumBrum Commission @Istkalen last edited by

                        On behalf of United Duchies I vote for the ammendment

                        James Mizrachi-Roscoe Councillor for United Duchies

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                        • Istkalen
                          Istkalen EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR the amendment.

                          Iras Tilkanas
                          Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                          • Mishar Republic
                            Mishar Republic EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Mishar Republic, I vote FOR the amendment.

                            Mrs. Susie Dakota

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                            • Spain
                              Spain last edited by

                              I vote FOR the amendment.

                              Donald Tusk
                              Councillor for Spain

                              The Kingdom of Spain
                              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                              • Istkalen
                                Istkalen EU last edited by

                                With four votes for, the amendment has passed.

                                Final voting begins now and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 16 June 2023.

                                Iras Tilkanas
                                Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                                • Istkalen
                                  Istkalen EU last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote AGAINST this act.

                                  Iras Tilkanas
                                  Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                                  • BrumBrum
                                    BrumBrum Commission @Istkalen last edited by

                                    On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this amendment
                                    James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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                                    • Elthize
                                      Elthize ECoJ last edited by Elthize

                                      Representing The State of Elthize, I vote AGAINST this amendment.


                                      May Hobbes
                                      Councillor for Elthize

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                                      • Yosai
                                        Yosai EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Federal Republic of Yosai I vote FOR this amendment

                                        Izumi Miwako
                                        Councillor for the Federal Republic of Yosai

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                                        • Spain
                                          Spain last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                          Donald Tusk
                                          Councillor for Spain

                                          The Kingdom of Spain
                                          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                            Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                                            On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia I vote AGAINST this Proposal.

                                            Sofie Čikarová
                                            Councillor for Czech Slavia

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