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    Amendment to the Free Movement of Required Labour Act 2014

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      Czech Slavia EU last edited by

      Mr. Firoux, first I would like to thank you for your constructive criticism in the first half, I would agree that the first part might need a bit of an clearance, perhaps a minimal percentage of members with relations to all workers in that line of work in the labour union or unions.
      But regarding the second part. Well I do appreciate your fury but it is perhaps misdirected. "nation must have an unemployment rate of below 4% to be eligible" That means that if the state has an unemployment rate lower then 4% Inquista would therefore be eligible to register. This part of amendment is a part of the proposition, exactly because we want countries to employ their local unemployed populace, instead of lowering wages and recruiting any more workers overseas. Now I understand that you have apologized and I thank you for that. However I must disagree with any attempts at rising this threshold. Yes this threshold is very low, but in my opinion any rising of that threshold, even if by 0.1%, would be a step against the working people.
      Returning to what I previously said I would like to propose the following amendment:

      To ensure the regulation or employment and the incapacity of exploitation the EU will establish a regulatory body named The Labour Exchange with whom any member state can register a labour shortage that they intend to be filled with immigrant labour. Registering a labour shortage must be approved by local Labour Union or Labour Unions in the affected line of work with a total labour union density of at least 30% and the nation must have an unemployment rate of below 4% to be eligible. The exchange will be run by the office of the Commissioner of Internal Affairs who will preside over its running.

      Václav Kohout
      Councillor for Czech Slavia

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      • Inquista
        Inquista last edited by Inquista

        Councillor Kohout, this is just my normal voice. I'm not directing fury toward anything. I'm not upset with you, or your proposal. I'm just stating my opinion. It would be negligent of me to not give my opinion on a piece of legislation, or to not give you advice on how to better the legislation. For instance, I like the amendment that you've added, which has remedied the first issue I brought to your attention.

        An unemployment rate of 4.1% is very low, especially for a free market economy. Usually most unemployment rates between 3% and 6% are considered 'full employment'. I have to imagine virtually all countries with an unemployment rate in that range have numerous fields which are in deeply dire demand of new labour, which they cannot get from their own country, and they would likely need way more new workers anyway than the total number of existing unemployed people.

        There is so much more worth to advocate here, especially for the rights of economic migrants, but this isn't the time to have a nuanced discussion on economic nationalism, which is what this proposal attempts to push. Nor can we discuss that Jimmy, the unemployed teacher, should obviously just learn new specialist and marketable skills and become a neurosurgeon or tech developer already, instead of wasting his time waiting for a new teaching job.

        I've said my piece already, so I will yield the floor to my colleagues.

        Edward Firoux
        Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

        siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
        Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
        Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
        Councillor Karinn Lallana

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        • Nofoaga
          Nofoaga EU last edited by

          Dear collègues,

          I would like to thank collègue Kohout for highlighting this matter.

          First of all, I can see why there a limit is needed to be eligible to apply. Does it has to be a maximum of 4% of unemployment? I don't know. What I do know, and there I join our collegue from Inquista. Even if the unemployment is below this 4%, there can be many specific areas in which there's a high demand. Conversely, the same applies, dear collegues. Let's take my home country for example. Nofoaga has currently an unemployment rate of 31,5%. No discussion about this. It is too high. But, collegues... A nation as mine with a small population and limited infrastructure and services will be the losers here. The current economy of our region and world is based on very specific domains and areas. That doesn't mean that the population nor the state is able in first instance to provide guidance and training in all these areas. Many of young Nofoagans go to study abroad. But meanwhile those jobs have to be filled in. And that's my point. This proposal is there for strong and diverse economies. The small countries that do not have that option are getting the crumbles or even are falling out.

          Secondly, what you bring op Mr. Kohout about that it's up to, concerning a labour shortage, must be approved by local Labour Unions in the affected line of work, is out of the question. Unions are not a legislative body. Governments, and the parliaments and assemblies who control them are. It is up to the authorities to enter into a dialogue with the unions in order to assess which needs must be addressed. May I also point out that the culture and function of unions may differ in each country? You can, as you do, look with a narrow, purely economic view to achieve a certain scale. However, your proposal has implications for a whole group that is affected in different areas. I ask you to think about this anyway.

          Thank you.

          Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
          EU Councilor for Nofoaga

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          • Inquista
            Inquista last edited by Inquista

            The discussion period is now over. Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 21:45 GMT on June 23rd, 2020. There are two amendments:

            Amendment I - Proposed by Cllr. Firoux
            Section II
            I. To ensure the regulation or employment and the incapacity of exploitation the EU will establish a regulatory body named The Labour Exchange with whom any member state can register a labour shortage that they intend to be filled with immigrant labour. Registering a labour shortage must be approved by local Labour Unions in the affected line of work and the nation must have an unemployment rate of below 4% to be eligible. The exchange will be run by the office of the Commissioner of Internal Affairs who will preside over its running.

            Amendment II - Proposed by Cllr. Kohout
            Section II
            I. To ensure the regulation or employment and the incapacity of exploitation the EU will establish a regulatory body named The Labour Exchange with whom any member state can register a labour shortage that they intend to be filled with immigrant labour. Registering a labour shortage must be approved by local Labour Union or Labour Unions in the affected line of work with a total labour union density of at least 30% and the nation must have an unemployment rate of below 4% to be eligible. The exchange will be run by the office of the Commissioner of Internal Affairs who will preside over its running.


            I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

            Edward Firoux
            Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

            siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
            Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
            Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
            Councillor Karinn Lallana

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              Czech Slavia EU last edited by Czech Slavia

              I vote AGAINST Amendment I and FOR Amendment II.

              Václav Kohout
              Councillor for Czech Slavia

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by

                On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                Donald. D. Tusk
                Councillor for Spain

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • Nofoaga
                  Nofoaga EU last edited by

                  On behalf of Nofoaga, I vote FOR ammendment I and AGAINST ammendment II.

                  Mrs Azaya Dubecq
                  EU Councilor for Nofoaga

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                  • Leagio
                    Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                    On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR amendment I and AGAINST amendment II.

                    Mr. Francis Plessis
                    Councilor for the Commonwealth of Leagio

                    President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                    Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                    EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                    • Fayrrendel
                      Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                      The Exalted Ottoman State ABSTAINS from voting on both Amendments I and II

                      Su Tevfik
                      Sublime Ottoman State

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                        A Former User last edited by

                        On behalf of the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane, I vote FOR Amendments I and II.

                        Martin Bourgaize
                        Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane

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                        • Vayinaod
                          Vayinaod EU last edited by

                          I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                          Carita Falk
                          Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                          Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                          Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                          EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                            I ABSTAIN on voting on the amendments.

                            Friedrich van Allen
                            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                            HM King George
                            Monarch

                            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                            Prime Minister

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                              Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                              I vote AGAINST both amendments.

                              Cllr Tupac Shakur

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                              • Inquista
                                Inquista last edited by

                                Voting on amendments has now finished. With 6 votes for and 2 against, Amendment I has PASSED. With 2 votes for and 6 votes against, Amendment II has FAILED.

                                The legislation has been updated in accordance to the passed amendment.

                                Final voting begins NOW and will last until 08:15 GMT on June 27th, 2020.


                                On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote AGAINST this amendment to the Free Movement of Required Labour Act.

                                Edward Firoux
                                Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                                siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                                • Spain
                                  Spain last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this amendment to the Free Movement of Required Labour Act.

                                  Donald D. Tusk
                                  Councillor for Spain

                                  The Kingdom of Spain
                                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                  • Nofoaga
                                    Nofoaga EU last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Republic Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST this ammendment.

                                    Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                                    EU Councilor for Nofoaga

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                                      Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I ABSTAIN from voting.

                                      Václav Kohout
                                      Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                                      • Vayinaod
                                        Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote AGAINST this amendment to the Free Movement of Required Labour Act.

                                        Carita Falk
                                        Cllr. for the Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                                        Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                        Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                        EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                        • Leagio
                                          Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST the Amendment.

                                          Francis Plessis
                                          EU Councilor for Leagio

                                          President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                          Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                          EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I ABSTAIN from voting on this amendment.

                                            Friedrich van Allen
                                            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                                            HM King George
                                            Monarch

                                            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                            Prime Minister

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