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    BUDGET OF THE EUROPEAN UNION FOR 2022 - 2023

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    • Istkalen
      Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

      Cllr. Mizrachi-Roscoe, the purpose of the ESA, in my opinion, should not be to clutter the sky with redundant satellites. The infrastructure for what you have mentioned is already in place; there is no need for new systems, merely for more integration. I am in favor of the increase proposed by the esteemed Premier Commissioner, which allows the organization to undertake new, beneficial research as well as to coordinate existing space programs, while being conservative enough to avoid truly wasteful spending.

      I am extending debate to 23:59 GMT on 10 December 2022.

      Iras Tilkanas
      Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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      • BrumBrum
        BrumBrum Commission @Istkalen last edited by

        Yes we have GPS but we have no redundancy or competition also there is currently no comprehensive climate monitoring satellite system and public owned alternative to the Starlink system for satellite internet . These functions would surely benefit the whole of the EU's population and are only possibly with a significant boost in funding to the 10's of billions a year and would benefit living standards and economic prosperity of all.

        James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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        • Inquista
          Inquista last edited by Inquista

          Cllr. Mizrachi-Roscoe, I have already made my views on the ESA very clear, and it has nothing to do with the mischaracterization you've attempted to pull off. I have no idea who you're even quoting with those quotation marks.

          From what it sounds like, you support giving billions of subsidies to private companies, such SpaceX, who have not provided any return on investment to the European people besides lining their own pockets. I am not surprised to see a capitalist support the bourgeoisie effort to defraud the working people of Europe, who must continue to suffer under the stranglehold of the European elite, while the European Council senselessly spends the money from their labour with no real attempt to provide justice and liberation.

          I shall always put the working people first, and so should the European budget. That's all I will say on the matter.

          Bp. Karinn Lallana
          Councillor for Inquista

          siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
          Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
          Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
          Councillor Karinn Lallana

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          • BrumBrum
            BrumBrum Commission @Inquista last edited by

            I do not believe in money going primarily to private companies in the space industry. However if you underfund ESA and let private for profit enterprises be the only providers of internet or ones owning big GPS or internet satelites you will by default be supporting them. I am for a properly funded ESA that leverages its budget to compete with private industry in this sector to provide competition and to offer options in the public interest. If you don't give ESA the budget it needs for its internet satelite proposals and for GPS and climate monitoring satellite constellations the reality is that we will increase dependence on private owned and funded industry for this purpose. I want the money to go to expert publicly funded space agencies and directly to ESA so they can hire experts to work in joint European space interests and make the EU invaluable to nations in the Union.

            James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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            • C
              Czech Slavia EU last edited by

              I fully back the proposal made by Karinn and her arguments. Perhaps if there is a large opposition to such decrease, as the words of Iras and Councillor Mizrachi-Roscoe suggest, the Premier Commissioner could propose a compromise?

              Sofie Čikarová
              Councillor for Czech Slavia

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              • Istkalen
                Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

                Debate has ended. There are two amendments, as follows;

                Amendment I
                European Space Administration: 1,496,400,000.00€ 296 400 000€


                Amendment II
                European Space Administration: 1,496,400,000.00€ 10,000,000,000€


                Voting on amendments begins now and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 24 December 2022.

                Iras Tilkanas
                Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                • BrumBrum
                  BrumBrum Commission @Istkalen last edited by

                  On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR Amendment II and AGAINST Amendment I
                  James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                  • Inquista
                    Inquista last edited by

                    I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                    Bp. Karinn Lallana
                    Councillor for Inquista

                    siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                    Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                    Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                    Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                    • Leagio
                      Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                      On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                      Lionel Morel
                      EU Councilor for Leagio

                      President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                      Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                      EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                      • Elthize
                        Elthize ECoJ last edited by

                        Representing The State of Elthize, I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.


                        Liam Zachary
                        Councillor for The State of Elthize

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                        • C
                          Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                          I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                          Sofie Čikarová
                          Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                          • Istkalen
                            Istkalen EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote AGAINST both amendments.

                            Iras Tilkanas
                            Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                            • Spain
                              Spain last edited by

                              I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                              Donald Tusk
                              Councillor for Spain

                              The Kingdom of Spain
                              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                              • California
                                California EU last edited by

                                On behalf of The United Kingdom, I vote AGAINST Amendment one and FOR Amendment Two.

                                Ed Miliband
                                Councillor for the United Kingdom

                                The Commonwealth of California
                                Prime Minister Kamala Harris
                                Governor-General Gavin Newsom
                                Councilor Snoop Dogg

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                                • Duxburian Union
                                  Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I vote FOR Amendment 1 and AGAINST amendment 2.

                                  Wesley Greene
                                  Councillor-General of the Duxburian Union

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                                  • Istkalen
                                    Istkalen EU last edited by

                                    Voting on amendments has ended. With 5 votes for and 2 votes against, Amendment I has PASSED. With 1 vote for and 6 votes against, Amendment II has FAILED.

                                    Final voting begins NOW and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 6 January 2022.

                                    Iras Tilkanas
                                    Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                                    • Spain
                                      Spain last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this budget.

                                      Donald Tusk
                                      Councillor for Spain

                                      The Kingdom of Spain
                                      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                      • BrumBrum
                                        BrumBrum Commission @Spain last edited by

                                        On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this budget despite the dissapointment of a budget cut that might as well stop any joint European Space projects.

                                        James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                                        • Inquista
                                          Inquista last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this budget.

                                          Bp. Karinn Lallana
                                          Councillor for Inquista

                                          siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                          Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                          Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                          Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                                          • Elthize
                                            Elthize ECoJ last edited by

                                            Representing The State of Elthize, I vote FOR this budget.


                                            Liam Zachary
                                            Councillor for The State of Elthize

                                            Unless stated otherwise, all content is fiction and does not represent any person, group of people or entity whose imagery or likeness may be used. If possible, images will be attributed.

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