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    BUDGET OF THE EUROPEAN UNION FOR 2022 - 2023

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    • BrumBrum
      BrumBrum Commission @Istkalen last edited by

      Yes we have GPS but we have no redundancy or competition also there is currently no comprehensive climate monitoring satellite system and public owned alternative to the Starlink system for satellite internet . These functions would surely benefit the whole of the EU's population and are only possibly with a significant boost in funding to the 10's of billions a year and would benefit living standards and economic prosperity of all.

      James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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      • Inquista
        Inquista last edited by Inquista

        Cllr. Mizrachi-Roscoe, I have already made my views on the ESA very clear, and it has nothing to do with the mischaracterization you've attempted to pull off. I have no idea who you're even quoting with those quotation marks.

        From what it sounds like, you support giving billions of subsidies to private companies, such SpaceX, who have not provided any return on investment to the European people besides lining their own pockets. I am not surprised to see a capitalist support the bourgeoisie effort to defraud the working people of Europe, who must continue to suffer under the stranglehold of the European elite, while the European Council senselessly spends the money from their labour with no real attempt to provide justice and liberation.

        I shall always put the working people first, and so should the European budget. That's all I will say on the matter.

        Bp. Karinn Lallana
        Councillor for Inquista

        siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
        Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
        Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
        Councillor Karinn Lallana

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        • BrumBrum
          BrumBrum Commission @Inquista last edited by

          I do not believe in money going primarily to private companies in the space industry. However if you underfund ESA and let private for profit enterprises be the only providers of internet or ones owning big GPS or internet satelites you will by default be supporting them. I am for a properly funded ESA that leverages its budget to compete with private industry in this sector to provide competition and to offer options in the public interest. If you don't give ESA the budget it needs for its internet satelite proposals and for GPS and climate monitoring satellite constellations the reality is that we will increase dependence on private owned and funded industry for this purpose. I want the money to go to expert publicly funded space agencies and directly to ESA so they can hire experts to work in joint European space interests and make the EU invaluable to nations in the Union.

          James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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          • C
            Czech Slavia EU last edited by

            I fully back the proposal made by Karinn and her arguments. Perhaps if there is a large opposition to such decrease, as the words of Iras and Councillor Mizrachi-Roscoe suggest, the Premier Commissioner could propose a compromise?

            Sofie Čikarová
            Councillor for Czech Slavia

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            • Istkalen
              Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

              Debate has ended. There are two amendments, as follows;

              Amendment I
              European Space Administration: 1,496,400,000.00€ 296 400 000€


              Amendment II
              European Space Administration: 1,496,400,000.00€ 10,000,000,000€


              Voting on amendments begins now and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 24 December 2022.

              Iras Tilkanas
              Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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              • BrumBrum
                BrumBrum Commission @Istkalen last edited by

                On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR Amendment II and AGAINST Amendment I
                James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                • Inquista
                  Inquista last edited by

                  I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                  Bp. Karinn Lallana
                  Councillor for Inquista

                  siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                  Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                  Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                  Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                  • Leagio
                    Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                    On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                    Lionel Morel
                    EU Councilor for Leagio

                    President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                    Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                    EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                    • Elthize
                      Elthize ECoJ last edited by

                      Representing The State of Elthize, I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.


                      Liam Zachary
                      Councillor for The State of Elthize

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                      • C
                        Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                        I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                        Sofie Čikarová
                        Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                        • Istkalen
                          Istkalen EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote AGAINST both amendments.

                          Iras Tilkanas
                          Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                          • Spain
                            Spain last edited by

                            I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                            Donald Tusk
                            Councillor for Spain

                            The Kingdom of Spain
                            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                            • California
                              California EU last edited by

                              On behalf of The United Kingdom, I vote AGAINST Amendment one and FOR Amendment Two.

                              Ed Miliband
                              Councillor for the United Kingdom

                              The Commonwealth of California
                              Prime Minister Kamala Harris
                              Governor-General Gavin Newsom
                              Councilor Snoop Dogg

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                              • Duxburian Union
                                Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                                On behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I vote FOR Amendment 1 and AGAINST amendment 2.

                                Wesley Greene
                                Councillor-General of the Duxburian Union

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                                • Istkalen
                                  Istkalen EU last edited by

                                  Voting on amendments has ended. With 5 votes for and 2 votes against, Amendment I has PASSED. With 1 vote for and 6 votes against, Amendment II has FAILED.

                                  Final voting begins NOW and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 6 January 2022.

                                  Iras Tilkanas
                                  Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                                  • Spain
                                    Spain last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this budget.

                                    Donald Tusk
                                    Councillor for Spain

                                    The Kingdom of Spain
                                    His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                    President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                    Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                    • BrumBrum
                                      BrumBrum Commission @Spain last edited by

                                      On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this budget despite the dissapointment of a budget cut that might as well stop any joint European Space projects.

                                      James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                                      • Inquista
                                        Inquista last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this budget.

                                        Bp. Karinn Lallana
                                        Councillor for Inquista

                                        siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                        Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                        Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                        Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                                        • Elthize
                                          Elthize ECoJ last edited by

                                          Representing The State of Elthize, I vote FOR this budget.


                                          Liam Zachary
                                          Councillor for The State of Elthize

                                          Unless stated otherwise, all content is fiction and does not represent any person, group of people or entity whose imagery or likeness may be used. If possible, images will be attributed.

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                                          • Istkalen
                                            Istkalen EU last edited by

                                            With four votes in favor, this budget has PASSED.

                                            Iras Tilkanas
                                            Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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