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    Amendments to the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen

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    • Istkalen
      Istkalen EU last edited by

      I of course would like to request a debate extension as of now, as this amendment is controversial and yet has not received particularly much discussion, especially from those who would be most affected.

      Iras Tilkanas
      Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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      • BrumBrum
        BrumBrum Commission last edited by

        I would challenge the idea that single party "democracy" is a democracy. If other voices are banned and only socialist voices allowed then it is by definition not a demos or of the people but only of some of the people. I am not expecting forcing cappitalism onto Icholsen or the UNSR as it is defacto now but it must at least abide by democracy and freedom of speech protected in the constitution if it is to be a member. We should not allow it membership without free and fair democratic elections and basic civil liberties. Thats all my ammendment seeks to achieve.

        James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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        • Istkalen
          Istkalen EU last edited by

          What, then, of the United Duchies, where it seems that the government is all to willing to suppress socialist voices as much as it can? It appears that it only bent at least partially because of international worry.

          Iras Tilkanas
          Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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          • Fayrrendel
            Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

            While I personally find the idea of a one-party state undesirable, it is theoretically possible to have a one-party state alongside a democracy. But factions within the party will have to be freely allowed and the party mechanisms open to the people. Democracies ban parties all the time, including your own country Councilor Roscoe. So freely allowing parties is not a sole criteria for democracy.

            Tony Odhinazen
            EU Councilor, Ruthund

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            • BrumBrum
              BrumBrum Commission last edited by

              I was fortunately able to change the government policy in the Duchies.I agree it went too far but it was a rash response to a crisis of national security , over 3,000 had just died.However we were able to ammend and fix the laws, thankfully the Duchies is now aware of how fast liberty can be lost.

              James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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              • Fremet
                Fremet EU last edited by

                The debate has ended. We will now begin voting on Amendments, listed below:


                Amendment I: (Proposed by Interim Cllr Iras Tilkanas)

                1. In the case that it denuclearizes, ceases hostilities of a military-related nature against member-states of this union, and proves itself, without doubt, to be in general accordance with Article V of the Constitution of the European Union, the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics may be admitted into the European Union as a neutral state under Article VI of the European Constitution. This legislation, as such, is to be treated as, in part, a neutrality motion for the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics, and is subject to the regulations around such motions. The restrictions regarding economic trade with the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics are to be lifted in the case of such an occurrence.

                Amendment II: (Proposed by Interim Cllr Iras Tilkanas)

                1. In the case that it denuclearizes, ceases hostilities of a military-related nature against member-states of this union, and proves itself, without doubt, to be in general accordance with Article V of the Constitution of the European Union, the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics may be admitted into the European Union as a neutral state under Article VI of the European Constitution. This legislation, as such, is to be treated as, in part, a neutrality motion for the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics, and is subject to the regulations around such motions. The neutral status of the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics only enters into effect upon its potential entrance into the European Union.

                Amendment III: (Proposed by Cllr Mizrachi-Roscoe)

                1. In return for membership of the EU and lifting of sanctions the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics is to recognise as legal all parties that existed before the coup in Icholsen and allow them to run in free fair democratic elections monitored by international observers from throughout the EU. The Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics is also to allow freedom to campaign to all said parties and allow all Icholsen media to operate within the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics freely and without censorship.

                Voting on Amendments begins NOW and ends 14 May 2021 at 12h00 GMT.


                On behalf of the Republic of Fremet, I vote FOR Amendments I and II and AGAINST Amendment III.

                Charles Michel
                Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                Statsminister Erna Solberg
                EU Cllr Charles Michel
                #FortressFremet

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                • Istkalen
                  Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

                  On behalf of the people of Istkalen, their will expressed through the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR Amendments I and II and AGAINST Amendment III.

                  Iras Tilkanas
                  Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                  • Spain
                    Spain last edited by

                    I vote AGAINST all amendments.

                    Donald Tusk
                    Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                    The Kingdom of Spain
                    His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                    President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                    Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                    • BrumBrum
                      BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                      On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR tall ammendments
                      James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                      • Inimicus
                        Inimicus EU last edited by

                        The Empire of Inimicus votes AGAINST Amendments I and II and FOR Amendment III.

                        Cllr Nicholas Benfield

                        The Empire of Inimicus
                        Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                        Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                        Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                        • Fayrrendel
                          Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                          I vote for AGAINST amendments I and III and FOR amendment II.

                          Tony Odhinazen
                          EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                          • Nofoaga
                            Nofoaga EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote FOR all amendments.

                            Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                            EU Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                            • Leagio
                              Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                              On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR Amendments I and I and Against Amendment III.

                              Francis Plessis
                              EU Councilor for Leagio

                              President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                              Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                              EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                              • Fremet
                                Fremet EU last edited by

                                With 4 votes FOR, 3 votes AGAINST, and no Abstentions, Amendment 1 has PASSED.
                                With 5 votes FOR, 2 votes AGAINST, and no Abstentions, Amendment 2 has PASSED.
                                With 3 votes FOR, 4 votes AGAINST, and no Abstentions, Amendment 3 has FAILED.

                                The original legislation has been updated to reflect the Amendments passed.

                                Final voting begins NOW and ends 23 May 2021 at 12h00 GMT.


                                On behalf of the Republic of Fremet, I vote FOR the Amendment to the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen.

                                Charles Michel
                                Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                                Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                #FortressFremet

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                                • Spain
                                  Spain last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this Amendment.

                                  Donald Tusk
                                  Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                                  The Kingdom of Spain
                                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                  • Istkalen
                                    Istkalen EU last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this motion.

                                    Iras Tilkanas
                                    Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                                    • Nofoaga
                                      Nofoaga EU last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                      Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                                      EU Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                                      • Inimicus
                                        Inimicus EU last edited by

                                        The Empire of Inimicus resolutely votes AGAINST this motion.

                                        The Empire of Inimicus
                                        Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                        Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                        Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                                        • Fayrrendel
                                          Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I ABSTAIN to vote on this amendment.

                                          Tony Odhinazen
                                          EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                                          • Leagio
                                            Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                            On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR this Amendment.

                                            Francis Plessis
                                            EU Councilor for Leagio

                                            President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                            Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                            EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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