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    European Order of Merit, Albína Reiserová, 2021

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    • Istkalen
      Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

      Upon review of the party constitution, it appears that I can in fact voice opinions differing from it, although I cannot act on them. Many have been expelled for such things, but I will be able to defend myself.

      I will say this first. I have no disagreement with President Reiserova. Her leadership has allowed for the continued construction of socialism in Czech Slavia; while she may have made some errors, it is not for me to criticize.

      My issue with this legislation regards the contribution of the President in this area. From what I understand, it is the Minister of Culture who has revolutionized Czech art, not the President. I would, if it were up to me, vote for the giving of an award to him, or to anyone who has been deeply involved in this artistic revolution - the directors of the aforementioned children’s show, for example - but not to the President, simply because her contribution is not very direct in nature.

      There is then the point about her films. I have watched parts of them, but had to stop because I felt as though subject matter that I am deeply uncomfortable with was about to presented. Upon some cursory research, this appears to be true, I am not exactly sure why Czech Slavia allowed such films to be made, especially for profit; while I am very glad that President Reiserova has attained her position and ended and brought light to this type of exploitation - a true triumph for both women and workers -, I am not sure why we are praising the fact that she was exploited in such a way. I am particularly disturbed by Cllr. Kohout’s words on this subject. I imagine that many were indeed brought “joy” by these films; but this “joy” is quite unethical, and those who forced the esteemed President into bringing such “joy” to people should be condemned.

      Iras Tilkanas
      Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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      • BrumBrum
        BrumBrum Commission last edited by BrumBrum

        I have to oppose this act. I have no issue in her getting acting awards in the industry for her contributions but she frankly has not done a heroic selfless deed or had a great influence on access to the arts to the working class like charities provide those are the type of people who deserve these honours . Having someone rewarded for essentially doing their job they are paid to do cheapens these Orders of Merit. Therefore I will oppose this act with the greatest respect to her achievements.

        James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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        • Inquista
          Inquista last edited by Inquista

          I completely agree that comrade Minister Šín is a man of profound genius, and he has greatly revitalised the contemporary style of Czech art, and he has helped propagate the popularity of that particular style overseas. However, this is not what I am hoping to award at this moment, although comrade Minister Šín also does deserve such recognition as well. This nomination, instead, is in recognition of the contributions that the great President Reiserová has made to European cinema, styles of acting, European art, and the other reasons I have laid out. Minister Šín has played a supporting role in the fourth notable contribution I mentioned, but not in the others.

          I don't think my dear comrade Councillor Tilkanas fully understands the profound impact that President Reiserová has had on European cinema and television, and I am not sure if they have even seen any of the President's many cinematic masterpieces, because they are not at all like what Councillor Tilkanas has alluded to. President Reiserová's films, while often being romantic comedies, have always been classified as PG. I am not sure what sort of films my dear comrade has been looking into here.

          I take comrade Councillor Kohout's point about the President's very humble character. Indeed, anyone who has had the pleasure of meeting President Reiserová would regale of her exceptional humility. In retrospect, placing the President's own likeness on the medallion is a great offense to the President's considerable modesty, and I shall immediately write a self-criticism for even suggesting this, and I will publish it online once this session of the Council is complete.

          I hereby propose the following amendment:

          Amendment
          SECTION III - MEDAL CEREMONY
          I. President Albína Reiserová will be presented with a European Order of Merit Medallion which will bare a likeness of her own face on the clapperboard and television screen on the medallion's face-value side.

          Bp. Karinn Lallana
          Councillor for Inquista

          siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
          Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
          Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
          Councillor Karinn Lallana

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          • Istkalen
            Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

            Tilkanas appeared on a screen, from her bed at her apartment.

            "It is very true that this films were "PG" in nature, but they serve to, just as other types of other films, objectify women and portray them as objects of a certain nature, for the gratification of men. The movies that President Reiserová follow in this pattern; while her acting is commendable, the lines that were given to her are meant to bring her down in this way, I believe. The romance that you speak of is, from this perspective, very inappropriate despite its surface-level appropriateness. It is still exploitation, of a very similar type.

            In particular, her films not merely promote this but also ultra-conservative social mores, I believe. Of course, we think these are all about modesty - but they view women, again, as exploitable objects. Regardless, I know as a fact that, for example, Erkas Tilisek, a fascist from my home country who prevented the German minority from living in the modern world, by denying them modern healthcare, literacy, electricity, sanitation, and anything resembling human rights, is an admirer of them. When her home was raided upon her arrest - and of course it had access to all of those things she denied to the Germans - a collection of films of this type, possibly including some of those President Reiserová acted in, was found, them being in the house because they "promoted traditional morality and the stable and moral family," butcould not be released to the public due to their promotion of "Godless philosophies." I am sure President Reiserová was not culpable for the ideas the films she was made to act in perpetuated, and I am sure she made many innovations while doing this, but this was exploitation pure and simple that served only to further perpetuate hierarchies, from extreme patriarchy across the world to feudalism in my own country."

            Iras Tilkanas
            Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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            • Kingdom of Reitzmag
              Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

              I request that debate be extended.

              Yuridiana Yahontov
              Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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              HM King George
              Monarch

              Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
              Prime Minister

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by Spain

                Granted, Councillor Yahontov.

                Debate on this shall CONTINUE until 17:54 GMT on October 10th, 2021.

                Donald Tusk
                Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • Spain
                  Spain last edited by

                  In my opinion, Albína Reiserová has done nothing valuable to be awarded with the European Order of Merit. Call me uncultured, but I have not seen any of her contributions to and promotions of the European Arts and Culture, so giving an Order of Merit to somebody that many Europeans don't know what she does or where she has performed or appeared is not ethical. In fact, I believe this Act is supported on political beliefs and not on real merits or actions that proof Albína Resiserová should be awarded with this prestigious award. There is not much else to say about the Czech Prime Minister or this proposal, just that I will vote against this proposal.

                  Thank you very much.


                  Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. There is ONE amendment, which has been proposed by Cllr. Lallana. The amendment is thus:

                  Amendment I - Proposed by Cllr. Lallana

                  SECTION III - MEDAL CEREMONY
                  I. President Albína Reiserová will be presented with a European Order of Merit Medallion which will bare a likeness of her own face on the clapperboard and television screen on the medallion's face-value side.


                  Voting on amendments will commence NOW and will last until 17:54 GMT on October 13th, 2021.


                  I vote FOR the amendment.

                  Donald Tusk
                  Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                  The Kingdom of Spain
                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                  • Inquista
                    Inquista last edited by

                    I vote FOR the proposed amendment.

                    Bp. Karinn Lallana
                    Councillor for Inquista

                    siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                    Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                    Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                    Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                    • C
                      Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                      I vote FOR the amendment.

                      Václav Kohout
                      Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                      • BrumBrum
                        BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                        On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR the proposed amendment
                        James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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                        • Spain
                          Spain last edited by

                          Voting on the amendment has concluded. With 4 votes FOR and none AGAINST, Amendment I has PASSED.

                          The bill has been updated to reflect the passed amendment.


                          Final voting begins NOW and will last until 18:08 GMT on October 16th, 2021.

                          On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this bill.

                          Donald Tusk
                          Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                          The Kingdom of Spain
                          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                          • Fayrrendel
                            Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I abstain from this vote.

                            Tony Odhinazen
                            EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                            • Inquista
                              Inquista last edited by

                              On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this European Order of Merit.

                              Bp. Karinn Lallana
                              Councillor for Inquista

                              siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                              Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                              Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                              Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                              • C
                                Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                                On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote FOR this European Order of Merit

                                Václav Kohout
                                Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                                • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                  Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I ABSTAIN from voting.

                                  Yuridiana Yahontov
                                  Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

                                  alt text

                                  HM King George
                                  Monarch

                                  Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                  Prime Minister

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                                  • BrumBrum
                                    BrumBrum Commission last edited by BrumBrum

                                    On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST this European Order of Merit
                                    James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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                                    • Vayinaod
                                      Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote FOR this European Order of Merit.

                                      Carita Falk

                                      Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                      Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                      EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                      • Spain
                                        Spain last edited by

                                        Voting has now concluded. With 3 votes FOR, 2 votes AGAINST and 2 votes ABSTAINING, this motion has FAILED as it requires a supermajority to pass.

                                        Donald Tusk
                                        Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                                        The Kingdom of Spain
                                        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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