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    • Istkalen
      Istkalen EU last edited by

      Debate will begin NOW and continue until 23:59 GMT on 8 January 2023.

      Iras Tilkanas
      Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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      • Yosai
        Yosai EU last edited by

        I do like this act in principle. My only real question is over overlapping classification of goods. But I am guessing that such a concern would need to be put forth to this ESTO body correct?

        Izumi Miwako
        Councillor of the Federal Republic of Yosai

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        • BrumBrum
          BrumBrum Commission @Yosai last edited by BrumBrum

          I support this act and I can honestly see Duchies just using the HS codes only since it is logical for Europe to have one code. I would like to praise the right honourable Councillor Greene for this contribution.I would like to ask however how would we ensure any disabiity coding meets national standards and doesn't enforce a european standard on them, Duchies wouldn't mind but some would.

          James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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          • California
            California EU last edited by

            This is so refreshing.

            The Commonwealth of California
            Prime Minister Kamala Harris
            Governor-General Gavin Newsom
            Councilor Snoop Dogg

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            • C
              Czech Slavia EU last edited by Czech Slavia

              I thank Councillor Greene for introducing this Act to us and like my colleagues I agree with the principle of the act. Nevertheless I have few comments. Since the naming of the Executive staff is left to the appointment of the Internal Affairs Commissioner, as the Act currently stand, the number of the Executive staff would be solely up to the IAC to determine. Wouldn't it thus be beneficial for the act to state the number of the Executive staff and provide more stability to the system? Furthermore, shouldn't the candidates for the position be nominated by the member states to the IAC? Are they supposed to be appointed for life? And what about the conditions of their dismissal? The Act in its current form does not cover these issues.

              Regarding Section III. Article 4. they shall be provided by whom? The Act does not specify which could lead to confusion.

              Lastly, and this is purely a technical point, Section IV. mentions Member Nations, while the rest of the act is mentioning Member States, usage of two terms for one thing should be avoided, especially if it concerns a single legislation. And while in the past some acts have used the term Member Nation, it is preferred to use one term for one thing. The term used in the Constitution of the European Union is "Member States", so I suggest sticking to that term where possible.

              For the rest of the issues I will wait for further comments by Councillor Greene but to address this small, technical issue I so far propose the following amendment,


              Amendment I

              Section I: Harmonized Tariff System Codes

              1. All types of goods for import and/or export from European member-states Member States shall be classified on a Master Schedule of Goods (MSG), sorted into chapters, sections, and sub-sections.
              2. Each good shall be assigned a universal 6 digit Harmonized System (HS) code number.
              3. Each HS code number shall consist of 2 digits denoting its chapter, 2 digits denoting its section, and 2 digits denoting its sub-section.
                a. Member -states States may append additional digits to HS code numbers for internal purposes.
                b. Member -states States may add their own existing national classification code numbers into the MSG, to be used, referenced, and generated alongside HS code numbers.
              4. It may be possible for a single type of good to have multiple valid HS code number options.
                a. Member -states States shall decide how multiple valid matches are to be treated within their jurisdictions.
                b. Member -states States shall decide how mixed derivative goods, unclassified goods, and other special/unusual circumstances are to be treated within their jurisdictions.

              Section III: Accessibility

              1. Harmonized System code numbers shall be encodable and decodable as bar codes, QR codes, and other standard formats.
                a. Encoding and decoding devices shall support vision-impaired and hearing-impaired users
                b. Member -states States may use their own pre-existing equipment if it can support encoding/decoding the HS code numbers.

              Section IV: Implementation

              1. All member nations Member States of the European Union are required to harmonize their national law(s) with this act within 1 year from its approval by the European Council.

              Sofie Čikarová
              Councillor for Czech Slavia

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              • BrumBrum
                BrumBrum Commission @Czech Slavia last edited by BrumBrum

                Looking at the act there may be an issue with the act in terms of country number codes being different in each nation to standardise the numbering for country codes.
                Section I: Harmonized Tariff System Codes

                1.All types of goods for import and/or export from European member-states shall be classified on a Master Schedule of Goods (MSG), sorted into chapters, sections, and sub-sections.
                2.Each good shall be assigned a universal 6 8 digit Harmonized System (HS) code number.
                3.Each HS code number shall consist of 2 digits denoting nation of origin or manufacture, 2 digits denoting its chapter, 2 digits denoting its section and 2 digits denoting its sub-section.
                a. Member-states may append additional digits to HS code numbers for internal purposes.
                b. Member-states may add their own existing national classification code numbers into the MSG, to be used, referenced, and generated alongside HS code numbers.

                Standardising country of origin codes should make it easier for trading across borders purposes. I hope people can see this a technical detail and not introducing a duchieism to this act.I do not intend to force all of EU onto Duchies standards and be seen as bossing about the EU nations onto our standards.

                James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                • Duxburian Union
                  Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                  Councillor Miwako, yes, when classifications overlap, that would be arbitrated with the ETSO. The master schedule is really just a big database with the HS codes as primary keys, so a lot of data can be associated with them, including multiple national codes. Some conflicts involving member states might not need arbitration, instructions on how they handle various code situations could be added to the code entry itself.

                  Councillor James Mizrachi-Roscoe, since national standards for accessibility can vary wildly, I intentionally made that section about outcomes rather than processes. The text doesn't care how a member state makes the things accessible as long as they do. Whether your own implementation complies is up to your own courts. As for moving to 8 digits over 6, I don't really see a need since the origin of goods is not always a clear-cut decision and isn't necessary for every single good. Imagine having a giant cargo ship enter a port - its manifest can tell you where all of its goods came from. There could be hundreds of thousands or even millions of items on that ship - each one needing to include origin would just be a waste of time.

                  Councillor Čikarová, I'm hesitant to declare a hard count of executive staff because it could end up being too many or too little people. International trade gets complicated in a hurry and the body would have a better understanding of its needs than I ever could. As far as how staff end up there, the IAC is envisioned to fill out the executive ranks with appointments and then they hire the rest of the team from there. I come from a common law country where once you vest appointment authority in a person, they are naturally understood to also have the power to modify and terminate such employment, it need not be stated. The IAC would decide when executives should be replaced and country of origin was not a consideration to me since it's not a political/representative institution, but a meritocratic one. If you still want to make an amendment specifying term limits and national representation, I wouldn't oppose it though.

                  In Section III.4, it's implied that since those resources are all developed and maintained by the ETSO, the ETSO would be providing them.

                  My apologizies for the lack of consistency in Section IV, that was lifted off a previous act late at night and not checked for consistency. They should all be member states, although I don't understand the difference between having a hyphen or not. That's something I'm unfamiliar with as English is not my native language.

                  Wesley Greene
                  Councillor-General of the Duxburian Union

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                  • BrumBrum
                    BrumBrum Commission @Duxburian Union last edited by BrumBrum

                    I would like to WITHDRAW my amendment as it appears to be an unnecessary Duchieism which is not needed. I am willing to listen to councillors and not waste their time. I do not intend to introduce Duchieisms against other member states wishes to acts. I appologise for introducing a possibly annoying Duchieism to the process.

                    James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                    • Istkalen
                      Istkalen EU last edited by

                      Debate has ended. One amendment has been proposed, as follows:


                      Amendment I

                      Section I: Harmonized Tariff System Codes

                      1. All types of goods for import and/or export from European member-states Member States shall be classified on a Master Schedule of Goods (MSG), sorted into chapters, sections, and sub-sections.
                      2. Each good shall be assigned a universal 6 digit Harmonized System (HS) code number.
                      3. Each HS code number shall consist of 2 digits denoting its chapter, 2 digits denoting its section, and 2 digits denoting its sub-section.
                        a. Member -states States may append additional digits to HS code numbers for internal purposes.
                        b. Member -states States may add their own existing national classification code numbers into the MSG, to be used, referenced, and generated alongside HS code numbers.
                      4. It may be possible for a single type of good to have multiple valid HS code number options.
                        a. Member -states States shall decide how multiple valid matches are to be treated within their jurisdictions.
                        b. Member -states States shall decide how mixed derivative goods, unclassified goods, and other special/unusual circumstances are to be treated within their jurisdictions.

                      Section III: Accessibility

                      1. Harmonized System code numbers shall be encodable and decodable as bar codes, QR codes, and other standard formats.
                        a. Encoding and decoding devices shall support vision-impaired and hearing-impaired users
                        b. Member -states States may use their own pre-existing equipment if it can support encoding/decoding the HS code numbers.

                      Section IV: Implementation

                      1. All member nations Member States of the European Union are required to harmonize their national law(s) with this act within 1 year from its approval by the European Council.

                      Voting will begin now and continue until 23:59 GMT on 14 January 2023.

                      Iras Tilkanas
                      Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                      • Spain
                        Spain last edited by

                        I vote FOR the Amendment.

                        Donald Tusk
                        Councillor for Spain

                        The Kingdom of Spain
                        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                        • BrumBrum
                          BrumBrum Commission @Spain last edited by

                          On behalf o United Duchies I vote FOR the amendment

                          James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                          • Elthize
                            Elthize ECoJ last edited by

                            Representing The State of Elthize, I ABSTAIN from voting for the amendment.


                            Liam Zachary
                            Councillor for The State of Elthize

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                            • California
                              California EU last edited by

                              On behalf of The United Kingdom, I vote FOR the amendment.

                              The Rt. Hon. Ed Miliband

                              The Commonwealth of California
                              Prime Minister Kamala Harris
                              Governor-General Gavin Newsom
                              Councilor Snoop Dogg

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                              • Leagio
                                Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR the Amendment.

                                Lionel Morel
                                EU Councilor for Leagio

                                President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                • Istkalen
                                  Istkalen EU last edited by

                                  Voting on amendments has ended.

                                  With 4 votes FOR, the amendment has passed.

                                  Final voting begins NOW and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 22 January 2023.

                                  Iras Tilkanas
                                  Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                                  • California
                                    California EU last edited by

                                    On behalf of The United Kingdom, I vote FOR this act.

                                    The Commonwealth of California
                                    Prime Minister Kamala Harris
                                    Governor-General Gavin Newsom
                                    Councilor Snoop Dogg

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                                    • BrumBrum
                                      BrumBrum Commission @California last edited by

                                      On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this act
                                      James Mizrachi-Roscoe Councillor for United Duchies

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                                      • Duxburian Union
                                        Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I vote FOR the act.

                                        Wesley Greene
                                        Councillor-General of the Duxburian Union

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                                        • Elthize
                                          Elthize ECoJ last edited by

                                          Representing The State of Elthize, I vote FOR this act.


                                          Liam Zachary
                                          Councillor for The State of Elthize

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                                          • Spain
                                            Spain last edited by

                                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this act.

                                            Donald Tusk
                                            Councillor for Spain

                                            The Kingdom of Spain
                                            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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