Harmonized Tariff System Codes Act
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I support this act and I can honestly see Duchies just using the HS codes only since it is logical for Europe to have one code. I would like to praise the right honourable Councillor Greene for this contribution.I would like to ask however how would we ensure any disabiity coding meets national standards and doesn't enforce a european standard on them, Duchies wouldn't mind but some would.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies
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This is so refreshing.
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I thank Councillor Greene for introducing this Act to us and like my colleagues I agree with the principle of the act. Nevertheless I have few comments. Since the naming of the Executive staff is left to the appointment of the Internal Affairs Commissioner, as the Act currently stand, the number of the Executive staff would be solely up to the IAC to determine. Wouldn't it thus be beneficial for the act to state the number of the Executive staff and provide more stability to the system? Furthermore, shouldn't the candidates for the position be nominated by the member states to the IAC? Are they supposed to be appointed for life? And what about the conditions of their dismissal? The Act in its current form does not cover these issues.
Regarding Section III. Article 4. they shall be provided by whom? The Act does not specify which could lead to confusion.
Lastly, and this is purely a technical point, Section IV. mentions Member Nations, while the rest of the act is mentioning Member States, usage of two terms for one thing should be avoided, especially if it concerns a single legislation. And while in the past some acts have used the term Member Nation, it is preferred to use one term for one thing. The term used in the Constitution of the European Union is "Member States", so I suggest sticking to that term where possible.
For the rest of the issues I will wait for further comments by Councillor Greene but to address this small, technical issue I so far propose the following amendment,
Amendment I
Section I: Harmonized Tariff System Codes
- All types of goods for import and/or export from European
member-statesMember States shall be classified on a Master Schedule of Goods (MSG), sorted into chapters, sections, and sub-sections. - Each good shall be assigned a universal 6 digit Harmonized System (HS) code number.
- Each HS code number shall consist of 2 digits denoting its chapter, 2 digits denoting its section, and 2 digits denoting its sub-section.
a. Member-statesStates may append additional digits to HS code numbers for internal purposes.
b. Member-statesStates may add their own existing national classification code numbers into the MSG, to be used, referenced, and generated alongside HS code numbers. - It may be possible for a single type of good to have multiple valid HS code number options.
a. Member-statesStates shall decide how multiple valid matches are to be treated within their jurisdictions.
b. Member-statesStates shall decide how mixed derivative goods, unclassified goods, and other special/unusual circumstances are to be treated within their jurisdictions.
Section III: Accessibility
- Harmonized System code numbers shall be encodable and decodable as bar codes, QR codes, and other standard formats.
a. Encoding and decoding devices shall support vision-impaired and hearing-impaired users
b. Member-statesStates may use their own pre-existing equipment if it can support encoding/decoding the HS code numbers.
Section IV: Implementation
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member nationsMember States of the European Union are required to harmonize their national law(s) with this act within 1 year from its approval by the European Council.
Sofie Čikarová
Councillor for Czech Slavia - All types of goods for import and/or export from European
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Looking at the act there may be an issue with the act in terms of country number codes being different in each nation to standardise the numbering for country codes.
Section I: Harmonized Tariff System Codes1.All types of goods for import and/or export from European member-states shall be classified on a Master Schedule of Goods (MSG), sorted into chapters, sections, and sub-sections.
2.Each good shall be assigned a universal68 digit Harmonized System (HS) code number.
3.Each HS code number shall consist of 2 digits denoting nation of origin or manufacture, 2 digits denoting its chapter, 2 digits denoting its section and 2 digits denoting its sub-section.
a. Member-states may append additional digits to HS code numbers for internal purposes.
b. Member-states may add their own existing national classification code numbers into the MSG, to be used, referenced, and generated alongside HS code numbers.Standardising country of origin codes should make it easier for trading across borders purposes. I hope people can see this a technical detail and not introducing a duchieism to this act.I do not intend to force all of EU onto Duchies standards and be seen as bossing about the EU nations onto our standards.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies
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Councillor Miwako, yes, when classifications overlap, that would be arbitrated with the ETSO. The master schedule is really just a big database with the HS codes as primary keys, so a lot of data can be associated with them, including multiple national codes. Some conflicts involving member states might not need arbitration, instructions on how they handle various code situations could be added to the code entry itself.
Councillor James Mizrachi-Roscoe, since national standards for accessibility can vary wildly, I intentionally made that section about outcomes rather than processes. The text doesn't care how a member state makes the things accessible as long as they do. Whether your own implementation complies is up to your own courts. As for moving to 8 digits over 6, I don't really see a need since the origin of goods is not always a clear-cut decision and isn't necessary for every single good. Imagine having a giant cargo ship enter a port - its manifest can tell you where all of its goods came from. There could be hundreds of thousands or even millions of items on that ship - each one needing to include origin would just be a waste of time.
Councillor Čikarová, I'm hesitant to declare a hard count of executive staff because it could end up being too many or too little people. International trade gets complicated in a hurry and the body would have a better understanding of its needs than I ever could. As far as how staff end up there, the IAC is envisioned to fill out the executive ranks with appointments and then they hire the rest of the team from there. I come from a common law country where once you vest appointment authority in a person, they are naturally understood to also have the power to modify and terminate such employment, it need not be stated. The IAC would decide when executives should be replaced and country of origin was not a consideration to me since it's not a political/representative institution, but a meritocratic one. If you still want to make an amendment specifying term limits and national representation, I wouldn't oppose it though.
In Section III.4, it's implied that since those resources are all developed and maintained by the ETSO, the ETSO would be providing them.
My apologizies for the lack of consistency in Section IV, that was lifted off a previous act late at night and not checked for consistency. They should all be member states, although I don't understand the difference between having a hyphen or not. That's something I'm unfamiliar with as English is not my native language.
Wesley Greene
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I would like to WITHDRAW my amendment as it appears to be an unnecessary Duchieism which is not needed. I am willing to listen to councillors and not waste their time. I do not intend to introduce Duchieisms against other member states wishes to acts. I appologise for introducing a possibly annoying Duchieism to the process.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies
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Debate has ended. One amendment has been proposed, as follows:
Amendment I
Section I: Harmonized Tariff System Codes
- All types of goods for import and/or export from European
member-statesMember States shall be classified on a Master Schedule of Goods (MSG), sorted into chapters, sections, and sub-sections. - Each good shall be assigned a universal 6 digit Harmonized System (HS) code number.
- Each HS code number shall consist of 2 digits denoting its chapter, 2 digits denoting its section, and 2 digits denoting its sub-section.
a. Member-statesStates may append additional digits to HS code numbers for internal purposes.
b. Member-statesStates may add their own existing national classification code numbers into the MSG, to be used, referenced, and generated alongside HS code numbers. - It may be possible for a single type of good to have multiple valid HS code number options.
a. Member-statesStates shall decide how multiple valid matches are to be treated within their jurisdictions.
b. Member-statesStates shall decide how mixed derivative goods, unclassified goods, and other special/unusual circumstances are to be treated within their jurisdictions.
Section III: Accessibility
- Harmonized System code numbers shall be encodable and decodable as bar codes, QR codes, and other standard formats.
a. Encoding and decoding devices shall support vision-impaired and hearing-impaired users
b. Member-statesStates may use their own pre-existing equipment if it can support encoding/decoding the HS code numbers.
Section IV: Implementation
- All
member nationsMember States of the European Union are required to harmonize their national law(s) with this act within 1 year from its approval by the European Council.
Voting will begin now and continue until 23:59 GMT on 14 January 2023.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen - All types of goods for import and/or export from European
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I vote FOR the Amendment.
Donald Tusk
Councillor for Spain
The Kingdom of Spain
His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk -
On behalf o United Duchies I vote FOR the amendment
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies
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Representing The State of Elthize, I ABSTAIN from voting for the amendment.
Liam Zachary
Councillor for The State of Elthize -
On behalf of The United Kingdom, I vote FOR the amendment.
The Rt. Hon. Ed Miliband
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On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR the Amendment.
Lionel Morel
EU Councilor for Leagio -
Voting on amendments has ended.
With 4 votes FOR, the amendment has passed.
Final voting begins NOW and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 22 January 2023.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
On behalf of The United Kingdom, I vote FOR this act.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
William V Rex
Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer
Councillor Caroline LucasThe Commonwealth of California
Prime Minister Kamala Harris
Councilor Snoop Dogg -
On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this act
James Mizrachi-Roscoe Councillor for United Duchies -
On behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I vote FOR the act.
Wesley Greene
Councillor-General of the Duxburian Union -
Representing The State of Elthize, I vote FOR this act.
Liam Zachary
Councillor for The State of Elthize -
On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this act.
Donald Tusk
Councillor for Spain -
The Order of the Braetha votes FOR this act.
Edutitalle Dina
ERE BACH'AIR DUN -
On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR this act.
Lionel Morel
EU-Councilor for Leagio
