European Green Car Retrofit Act
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Debate begins NOW and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 20 June 2023.
I am in favor of a European-wide subsidy system for the construction of green energy, new electricity transmission, and yes, the purchase of electric and green cars. Conversion, however, is something different, as it is an extraordinarily expensive and unappealing process, even with grants.
I am therefore opposed to this act.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
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You say conversion is expensive but there are firms who can convert cars to bio-fuels including bio-gas , hybrid and electric propulsion for as little as a few thousand Euros. I would like to know where you can buy or lease a new car for less than this. By offering a grant to existing car owners to convert their cars to green propulsion systems they will save money, save the environment by reducing the carbon emissions related to production of new cars and help speed up the transition to green energy in the EU of which motor transport is a key part of. Cars are not going away so we can at least make the existing fleet greener and conversion is one of the cheapest and most environmentally ways of achieving this while reducing production emissions also. If you can point to a cheaper new electric or any car of any green propulsion method less than 4,000 Euros then please do so as it would be a miracle.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies
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Car conversion imposes both the cost of conversion itself as well as of time. There are very good reasons as to why very few people find it appealing. A subsidy would be slightly more appealing to me as a part of a broader grant scheme for a green transition, including grants for the purchase of electric and hydrogen cars, but to amend this act into something along those lines would require a complete rewrite.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
I would be willing to put an amendment in for that purpose and amend it to allow a choice but the truth is conversion will always be cheaper than a new car. If one cannot afford to put 4,000 Euros towards a conversion for Electric or hydrogen then how could they afford 10-20,000 euros or more to buy a brand new election car? And you mention time the garage can lend cars as part of the cost of the package which many do in the United Duchies already and I can put it in the bill that a temporary car must be provided. I will therefore propose the following amendment to adress the minor issues raised:
European Green Car Retrofit and Replacement Act
Article 1
I. A scheme for grants for retrofit of cars to bio-fuel, biofuel hybrid,Electric and Hydrogen power systems shall be set up.
II. Each European Union car owner resident in an EU state shall be eligible for one grant of 4,000 Euros to retrofit their car or put towards a new environmentally friendly net zero or near net zero-emissions car in return for giving up the old car which will either be scrapped or converted to greener methods of propulsion and sold on.
III. A minimum of 2,000,000 4,000 Euros grants allocated to each nation based on their percentage of the population shall be granted per year.This shall be increased with in line with inflation until 2040.
IV. Nations shall allocate an agency to manage to the grant
V. The grant must be used with a safety accredited firm licensed by the member state the person is resident in to carry out a conversion.
VI. Memberstates may offer additional grants on the scheme domestically by topping up the grant scheme with extra funding allowing the state to offer higher grants or more grants if they desire.
VII. All car conversions must meet the national safety standards of the nation and be compatible in case of electric conversion with the national charging standard of the country.
VIII. The scheme shall run until 2040
IX. Companies must for the duration of the conversion provide a temporary car for the customer -
I propose the 2nd amendment to this act.
X. There will be a fund established within the EDA to fund the appropiate level of renewable and green energy including Nuclear if a state wishes and battery storage to ensure the grid can cope with the level of Electric Car adoption. This shall be determined by experts in the field in the nations and EU officials. -
Though it is technically legal, I am opposed to attempts to amend unrelated legislation by act, as it is simply bad practice. I also do not want to see this act become an omnibus for climate legislation.
In spite of my support for Cllr. Mizrachi-Roscoe's first amendment, I am therefore opposed to his second.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
Debate has ended. Two amendments have been proposed, as follows:
AMENDMENT I
European Green Car Retrofit and Replacement Act
Article 1
I. A scheme for grants for retrofit of cars to bio-fuel, biofuel hybrid,Electric and Hydrogen power systems shall be set up.
II. Each European Union car owner resident in an EU state shall be eligible for one grant of 4,000 Euros to retrofit their car or put towards a new environmentally friendly net zero or near net zero-emissions car in return for giving up the old car which will either be scrapped or converted to greener methods of propulsion and sold on.
III. A minimum of 2,000,000 4,000 Euros grants allocated to each nation based on their percentage of the population shall be granted per year.This shall be increased with in line with inflation until 2040.
IV. Nations shall allocate an agency to manage to the grant
V. The grant must be used with a safety accredited firm licensed by the member state the person is resident in to carry out a conversion.
VI. Memberstates may offer additional grants on the scheme domestically by topping up the grant scheme with extra funding allowing the state to offer higher grants or more grants if they desire.
VII. All car conversions must meet the national safety standards of the nation and be compatible in case of electric conversion with the national charging standard of the country.
VIII. The scheme shall run until 2040
IX. Companies must for the duration of the conversion provide a temporary car for the customer
AMENDMENT II
X. There will be a fund established within the EDA to fund the appropiate level of renewable and green energy including Nuclear if a state wishes and battery storage to ensure the grid can cope with the level of Electric Car adoption. This shall be determined by experts in the field in the nations and EU officials.
Voting begins NOW and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 29 June 2023.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR the amendment
James Mizrachi Roscoe , Councillour for United Duchies -
Two amendments have been proposed, Cllr. Mizrachi-Roscoe; I would therefore like you to clarify whether you are voting in favor of both or not.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
I vote for both amendments
James Mizrachi-Roscoe Councillour for United Duchies -
Voting will be extended to 23:59 GMT on 2 July 2023.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
I vote AGAINST both amendments.
Donald Tusk
Candidate for Speaker and Councillor for Spain -
On behalf of the United Kingdom, I vote FOR all amendments.
Councillor Ed Miliband
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With two votes for and one against, both amendments have passed. Final voting begins NOW and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 14 July 2023.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
On behalf of the Hallowed Wimish Burlawship, I sway FOR this lawbode.
Alþ. Bearn Marlowson
Redeman for the Hallowed Wimish Burlawship -
On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this act.
Donald Tusk
Candidate for Speaker and Councillor for Spain
The Kingdom of Spain
His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk -
On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this act
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies -
On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST this Act.
Lionel Morel
EU Councilor for Leagio -
With two votes for and two votes against, this act has failed.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
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