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    [OOC] Proposal War System v.5 - Discussion

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    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

      My question is what would happen to the old units when this is implemented. If I had 450 planes on the old one, and 94 on the new one...

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      HM King George
      Monarch

      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
      Prime Minister

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      • Vayinaod
        Vayinaod EU last edited by

        Only units accounted for on the new system would exist, whether the admins want to consider this a sort of retcon or something is on them. But for war system purposes only things accounted for/supported would be allowed for gameplay purposes.

        Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
        Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
        EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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        • Vayinaod
          Vayinaod EU last edited by

          OKAY I got another update lmao.

          Angleter asked me to look into adding a budget feature to the war system...and after some eye twitching and hours of frantic hours in google spreadsheets I figured out a way to convert IC's to a hard military budget.

          The equation:
          [Total ICs/5]* 10,000,000 = Budget in EUROS

          As a part to accommodate this, you are not allowed to spend more than 5% of your EURO GDP on defense without war admin approval. Also Defense Multipliers have now been changed to where you may choose how much of your budget you spend on defense, but the max is 25% without War Admin approval. The multipliers themselves have been changed to accommodate this.

          Uhhh at the request of @Duxburian-Union I added to the War Sheet to declare whether you met the requirements for certain units or not to make it clear before you post it that you have all that you need.

          You can see all these changes here:
          War System v5 Changes
          War Sheet v5 VERSION 10
          Nation Tests

          The Nation Tests use the v9 war sheet but I added the necessary test features of the new Budget System to all of the necessary budget numbers. You Can find it at the way bottom under TEST FEATURE.

          Overall I think the numbers are Representative of a real military budget for all nations so far I looked at. It also creates an IC limit that way you don't necessary outspend your economy. This is to help balance it out so that BIG states with a big economy and population don't exhaust their manpower while their IC's just remain fairly untouched.

          Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
          Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
          EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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          • A
            Angleter EU last edited by

            First of all I'd like to thank @Vayinaod for his work on this and for being patient with me taking ages to get around to moving this process forward.

            I think this system is great. It adds a dose of realism to our war system and makes us think about how we structure our armed forces and how we fight military conflicts. The reality is this works in favour of smaller countries – what this system does more than anything else, especially combined with population rules, is severely limit the ability of larger countries to field massive armed forces that can successfully attack any smaller nation anywhere in the region.

            I'm glad that we've found a way for this to dovetail with a budget system as well. That should make us all think about how much we're spending on our militaries – even if it's possible to sustain a military of X size, it might not be desirable to do so – and act accordingly. Most RL countries, especially in Europe, do not put a huge portion of their GDP towards defence because doing so would harm their ability to do all the other things a modern Western government wants to do.

            In short, this system will, I think, allow for a lot more realism and much better military and economic RP, and I think we should all support it.


            I'd like, therefore, to initiate a vote on replacing the current war system with this one. Voting starts now and ends 17.00 GMT on April 15th. One vote per player. 75% threshold for approval.

            I vote AYE

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            • California
              California EU last edited by

              Sure, Aye.

              The Commonwealth of California
              Prime Minister Kamala Harris
              Governor-General Julia Gillard
              Councilor Snoop Dogg

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              • Fremet
                Fremet EU last edited by

                I vote AYE

                Statsminister Erna Solberg
                EU Cllr Charles Michel
                #FortressFremet

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                • Vayinaod
                  Vayinaod EU last edited by

                  I vote AYE

                  Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                  Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                  EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                  • Inquista
                    Inquista last edited by

                    I vote AYE.

                    siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                    Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                    Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                    Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                      I vote Aye

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                      HM King George
                      Monarch

                      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                      Prime Minister

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                      • Spain
                        Spain last edited by

                        I do vote AYE.

                        The Kingdom of Spain
                        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                        • Fayrrendel
                          Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

                          I vote AYE

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                          • A
                            Angleter EU last edited by

                            The vote is 8-0 to AYE, which is, er, more than 75%, so the motion is approved!

                            I'll get to work updating the warzone forum.

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