[Discussion] Eurorail Project

[Kingdom of Reitzmag]

Coun. Freund, I'm not starting a pro-Winston or pro-Juncker discussion here but I'd like to say that you might have mistaken Mr. Juncker's idea. As far as I know, Mr. Juncker wants to make an entirely new railway network here. Which I think would be far more expensive.

Friedrich van Allen
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

[Spain]

Councillor van Allen, I think you have misunderstood what I've just proposed. As I said, I want to use existing railway and just build the necessary infrastructure to connect European Countries between eachother. I know that your most beloved candidate for Internal Affairs promised to favour your country several times, even in the Commission debate which is something illegal, but this project shall not have any borders, nor any dispute on Winston and Juncker, and viceversa. Apart from this, I'm pretty sure that when the Nine Dominions of Icholasen take back their lands we will be able to open the Eurotunnel between them and Miraco again, and I'm sure there is still lots of tracks to connect with. But I still don't understand why you are terribly mistaken on the Eurorail Project, when the Commission and myself have released every information we had and I have opened a discussion to debate thus.

About Councillor Farage map, I'd like to tell him not to worry, as the European Commission map is just an innacurate version of the route, it's just made to inform you Councillors about the countries that could be connected on Stage 2, nothing more and nothing else. You can count with the major cities being connected, as far as the railway goes on your country we will study it along private companies to create the best routes.

Finally, I would like to thank Councillor Freund for his support and I really hope that we reach Austria as soon as possible, but I think that I won't be Commissioner by the time the Eurorail reaches Austria, or who knows?

Jean-Claude Juncker
Councillor for Spain

[Kingdom of Reitzmag]

Mr. Juncker! How dare you have stolen Atty. Winston's idea again! This is unbelievable! What a very big electoral fraud!

Friedrich van Allen
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

[Spain]

Oh, here he is. Councillor van Allen, the superhero. For your information, he has many superpowers, you see? He can be a judge, he can be god on the heaven's gates saying who enters and who doesn't, he can be a priest and say what it's good and it's bad, he can be a detective and proof Commissioner Juncker has done an electoral fraud, and he can be a magician, by derrailing the topic of the Session, Discussion or whatever to what he wants. Councillors, I'd like to introduce you our reaction when the Reitzmic Councillor becomes a superheroe and uses his superpowers:

Tusk then grabs a photo and shows it

Of course I've censored the bad word, it's not an appropiate word for this Discussion or the Council. Going back to the main topic, Spain will support and co-operate to get the Eurorail moving and we are really pleased to see that our foreign connections will be useful to start it. We are expecting to see this as something real, and the Commission is going on the right way when cutting down costs and using existing infrastructure. Congratulations Commissioner Juncker, this is great content that mostly all of us are expecting to see.

Donald D. Tusk
Councillor for Spain

[A Former User]

As I said before, Councillor Van Allen, Atty. Winston never made a clear public statement endorsing such ideas. It must, as such, be assumed, that Commissioner Juncker developed his own idea independently.

At the same time, you, Councillor Van Allen, cannot claim total ownership over an idea this simple. Even a five-year old child would be capable of coming up with it. To attempt to do so would be the same as attempting to patent the usage of sticks for the purpose of pointing at or poking various objects. Ridiculous!

Please stop with this. I do not understand why you have this infatuation with Atty. Winston.

Eugen Freund
Councillor for the Federal Republic of Austria

[Spain]

Councillor van Allen, I can tolerate you being confused about the project and endorsing Edmund-Jasper Winston's projects and ideas, because he is from Reitzmag and from your Eurogroup, it's perfectly understandable and I would do the same if I would be the Spanish Councillor and the candidate that lost the election was Spanish, but that's not where I want to get, because it's not the time, nor the appropiate discussion to talk about this.

But what I'm not tolerating it is your untrue statements and fake accussations towards me. In my first run for Commission, I was voted by 18 countries. On my 2nd run, I was voted by 8 countries out of 15, meaning an absolute majority on both runs. This means that those that voted for me also believed in me, and moreover, that if they voted me it's because I didn't enter on an electoral fraud. I deserve the same respect than you, any Councillor, any Commissioner or any Commission candidate which lost 1 or 2 elections, because I didn't fraud anybody and I will never do. The last time someone made a fake statement about me on fraud or copyright the case wasn't heard by the European Court of Justice, again, proves my innocence and that I didn't fraud anybody. I'm not a liar, I am an European Commissioner which won 2 elections by a majority and wants to do the best for Europe. My tasks are being neutral and coming out with proposals for our continent, which reach out as much countries as possible. If I wasn't neutral, I could have started describing the problems about your election, which I consider legitimate, and end up on the many problems your country have had in the European Union, attacking yourself and every Reitzmic who has tried to enter the European Politics. And I won't do that because I am not a biased, a liar or a person who frauds, but a humble Commissioner who always says the truth.

Please, watch out your words towards me because this Council shall be the house of respect, of the European Values. And disrespecting the Commissioners or Councillors is not one of our European Values. Thank you.

Jean-Claude Juncker
Commissioner for Internal Affairs

[Pravoslaviya]

Isn't this crazy? Isn't it ridiculous?

Here we've got Juncker, and we've got Winston, speaking through Van Halen, arguing again - they've done it before, they'll do it again - about who invented this idea. And it's such a bad idea.

Folks, they want you to think this is just another crazy spending project for the globalists in the big corporations, but actually, it's even worse. OK? It's even worse. Why are they building this rail network from North Diessen, which borders Dromund Kaas, all the way into the middle of Europe? It's so they can get migrants and so-called 'refugees' - really nasty people - and get them on the train at North Diessen, and take them all the way into Inquista, into Spain, into United Duchies. And if you complain, they'll say 'no, it's Eurorail, you can't stop it'.

They want to turn all your countries, all of those lovely countries - and I really love all these countries, I do, probably in many cases more than their Councillors - into New Dromund Kaas. That's what they want, OK? I am so glad that Pravoslaviya is not part of this. So happy, you wouldn't believe.

Cllr Dragan Trympov

[Spain]

Cllr. Trympov, first of all welcome to the European Council and congratulations for being the new Pravoslaviyan Councillor.

But, I have to say I'm really concerned about the signs of discrimination I have been able to see on your speech. What's the problem with migrants? I don't see many nations except yours and maybe any other that doesn't come to my mind right now havin problem with them because of past reasons I won't mention right now, but yeah, in this Union we say No to discrimination. The European Union, nor the Commission or myself, will force a member state to follow certain immigration policies to join the Eurorail project, and we will respect the choices of every member state. And no, immigrants don't turn nations into the New Drommund Kaas, but they make the nation's culture richer.

And about the non-entrance to the project, I respect but not share your country's decision. Thank you very much.

Jean-Claude Juncker
Commissioner for Internal Affairs

[Kingdom of Reitzmag]

So now you are opening this kind of discussion Mr. Juncker.

On your words, you are basically telling that you are divine and heavenly and people praise you. Don't worry but soon maybe you'll replace the pope. laughs

We have respect for each other here in the council as always Mr. Juncker. But look, you're telling that you did not commit fraud only because you won a majority of votes twice? You must be insane Mr. Juncker because your explanation is very Junk. You're telling me you're humble right after you boasted your majority win in the EU Elections? Mr. Juncker stop copying ideas on projects now. We're enough of it. At first you made the idea to make a new railway line and you also called it Eurostar. Then this time, you copied Atty. Winston again and took his idea of just connecting all the existing railway systems of all member-states? You did not mention that in your campaign Mr. Juncker, but Mr. Winston did. So tell me, isn't that fraudulent?

I assume you are very well-educated and you have studied in prominent schools but why can't your explanations impress me. You have made very illogical explanations that are far from what we are discussing. So please stop pretending that you are a very righteous man even if you were not.

Friedrich van Allen
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

#BeastModeAgain #JunckerLiar

[A Former User]

Councillor van Allen, you appear to be drunk. Perhaps you should go home.

In all seriousness, this is nonsense. Atty. Winston did not publicly propose any of this! There has been no stealing, there has been no fraud! As I said before, a five year old child could think of this! Ridiculous! Ridiculous! Ridiculous!

And finally - finally! - absolutely no one - no one! - has claimed that the Commissioner is divine! No one! No one! He has, in fact, said that you believe this about yourself! Listen! LISTEN! LISTEN FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE!

Eugen Freund
Councillor for the Federal Republic of Austria

[Kingdom of Reitzmag]

Oh really Mr. Freund. Why don't you go back watch Mr. Winston's interview on CBC News and see if he didn't publicly propose this. You can also watch his 6th Rally Speech from Pravoslaviya in which he also mentioned such so I think you must've been updated or maybe you are the real drunk.

Friedrich van Allen
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

#BeastModeAgain #JunckerLiar #FreundIsNotUpdated

[A Former User]

I stand corrected, and deeply apologize for the scene I have created - something that I certainly must learn from. However, I continue to stand by my belief that quite literally anyone, from the oldest person on Earth to perhaps even infants, could have developed this idea in an instant.

Eugen Freund
Councillor for the Federal Republic of Austria

[Mennrimiak]

Mr van Allen for much i hate to say this but i think it is needed, No, this debate is not for this type of commentary, i believe that most of the people present today dont cares about neither your obsession with Winston and his rivalry with Juncker or about who proposed it first, What we are here for is to discuss how can we make this proposal be better and how it will afect the nations of Europe.

Adam Karlssen

Councillor for Mennrimiak

[Kingdom of Reitzmag]

Mr. Karlssen, my main concern here is that Mr. Juncker didn't even consult Mr. Winston on taking his idea. He's only crediting himself or the European Commission but not Mr. Winston. This morning, he told me that he is always open for a joint development of such and that he is ready to share his idea for the betterment of Europe. However, he told me too that Mr. Juncker did not even ask him if he can use his idea which made him very disappointed.

Friedrich van Allen
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

[Inimicus]

This was exactly the type of stuff Sir Augustus had warned Hetty about the day she took over as Inimicus's European Councillor. "Hetty", he had said, "Within two days of your coming here you will witness at least three instances of Reitzmag and Spain getting involved in some petty dispute over nothing. Just have a drink and wait it out."

Nevertheless, Hetty stood and spoke: "Colleagues, surely this is a discussion for another time. I genuinely do not care who proposed this project, whether it be Juncker or Atty - can't we just discuss the remits of the proposal before us without instantly resorting to personal attacks and petty disputes?

In any case, Cllr van Allen, isn't imitation the most sincere form of flattery?"

Hetty Tilki
Empire of Inimicus

[Spain]

Councillor van Allen, it's not worth to waste time arguing with a Councillor who, as expected, would start saying lies about me. You are the same than your friend on campaign, stop it. We couldn't care less about Mr. Winston right now, we couldn't care less. I respect him a lot, but now it's not the chance to bring it out. And before I end my short speech to you and I go back to the train matter, I mentioned it in Mennrimiak, I talked with my EPA friends about the project before campaign even started. And I am never right, because I also make mistakes. But I'm not a liar, and I didn't become Commissioner to lie and laugh at the faces of Commissioners and Councillors.

And now, to the Eurorail matter, the European Commission have made a logotype for it. Of course, this is subject to change if you all don't like it:

Jean-Claude Juncker
Commissioner for Internal Affairs

[Pravoslaviya]

I am the single least racist person, and Pravoslaviya is the least racist country in the region. It's true. Our former councillor, now Deputy Prime Minister - great guy - is Tupac Shakur, and when he got up in this chamber to speak against sending Copala to Eastern Haane and not jail like she should be, they said 'watch your tone'. To a black guy. 'Watch your tone', can you believe that? Give me a break.

And Dromund Kaas is made up of people, OK? If you take people from Dromund Kaas, and you put them in another country, then that country's culture becomes more like Dromund Kaas. And eventually, yes, it becomes New Dromund Kaas. But we all know the globalists think that making somewhere more like Dromund Kaas makes it richer, that's nothing new.

So Juncker, can you confirm now that Eurorail will not be used to transport Kaasian migrants from countries bordering Dromund Kaas to other countries?

Cllr Dragan Trympov

[Spain]

As far as I'm concerned, the Eurorail Project won't transport Kaasian migrants because the Eurorail won't reach Drommund Kaas, and furthermore, there will be checks to increase security if requested by the train companies runnign those service. But again, that depends on the station operator and the train company, because this is not an Union-owned service, but companies-owned. Thank you for your question Cllr. Trympov.

Jean-Claude Juncker
Commissioner for Internal Affairs

[BrumBrum]

We utterly condemn the xenophobia over movement and migration. There is nothing wrong with migration but this does not in anyway affect migration.This project will boost the economy of all our nations, make travel and tourism easier and therefore we are for this project. As far as the routing we are reassured that the map is just a indicative map. The logo looks nice though it could go with a symbol so its more recognisable easily, branding will be very important.

I'd like to suggest Europlus tickets as an idea. We should be encouraging public transit by allowing discounted travel if you buy a day or multiday passes for transport at the destination on top of the EuroRail fare. In this way this project can cut carbon emissions even further.For those questioning the funding for this project I ask why? When we have an oppurtunity for green , efficient, integrated transport to cut carbon emissions surely we should take it even if we set up a company structure to run it.

Tobias Farage Johnson , United Duchies Councillour