[Discussion] Creation of a Transitional Government in Istkalen
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If Reitzmag and Vayinaod's coalition can't establish a transitional authority in Istkalen due to your government's hostility, how can the European Union itself even create it? If you wish for peace in the region my dear colleague, then why not tell your government to just surrender their hostility and submit themselves to the Reitzmo-vardic coalition. Unless however that the Istkalenian Government is just trying to show that it is democratic while being hostile and aggressive to its neighbor.
Yuridiana Yahontov
Interim Deputy Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag -
We are willing to allow Vardic troops to occupy our territory; we are not willing to allow the troops of a country which is currently brutalizing our people and attempting to annex much of our territory to do so.
That is final.
Gertrude Echteran
Councillor for Istkalen -
And thus there it is ladies and gentlemen, the Istkalenians still are really hostile and aggressive. Brutalizing the people when those captured are actually being taken care of, given food, medical care, and proper shelter? It is your government that's brutalizing our forces, and thus we have to respond in the same way. I hope that my colleague finally knows the truth on what their armed forces are doing to ours.
Yuridiana Yahontov
Interim Deputy Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag -
You have literally arrested local politicians and constructed walls around cities. Your government is annexing almost half of our country? Is that being taken care of? Or is it denying people national sovereignty and basic democracy?
We dismantled the government of Meinl-Reisinger to restore democracy. We cooperated with grassroots governments in our territory to create a better society. We launched a major infrastructural project in order to improve people's lives.
What have you done? Arrest people and put others in a glorified jail, in which they can still move but are still, in the end trapped.
Leave our territory; let people who are not so keen on imperialism help us to actually rebuild it rather than scarring our people forever.
Gertrude Echteran
Councillor for Istkalen -
Denying democracy? Reitzmag's main goal is to ensure that there is real democracy before we leave. And that Istkalen pays the price for whatever damages it did throughout the war. You tried to occupy Reitzmag, and now you would not surrender and keep on being hostile as we make Istkalen pay for what it had done. Tell your government to surrender and submit themselves, Reitzmic soldiers will not likely leave unless your government's hostility has ended and Istkalen is back to it's democratic state.
In addition, I have been informed that documents had been recovered from major cities and those who had been captured that detailed your government's plan to occupy Reitzmag. And I am happy that HM Armed Forces are strong enough to resist and counter-attack. So I ask you fellow councilor to stop being brainwashed by your aggressive government. And your demands in this chamber are very childish, considering that istkalen is losing the war. No one believes in your government anymore after their dishonesty and hostility. We will only be sure if Reitzmag and Vayinaod successfully ends this war with a transitional authority that the two countries will establish.
Yuridiana Yahontov
Interim Deputy Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag -
As I have stated categorically, we are barely related to the previous government. To let a secret away, we removed the previous Head of State.
Whatever documents you have found were likely there because of the ongoing trials against genocidaires, which you have interrupted.
Reitzmag's price - the annexation of our core territories - is far too much, for an illegal invasion lasting less than a day involving rogue genocidaires and "consent" from our Head of State, who we have now found was suffering from severe mental illness, possibly psychosis - a situation leaving her unable to consent in any way.
We are not going to surrender until Reitzmag stops its imperalism.
Gertrude Echteran
Councillor for Istkalen -
My dear councilor, Reitzmag's empire had already been dissolved back then. And we find no interest in taking them back. For your information, Reitzmag also has a no-first strike policy, and therefore it is your armed forces who are firing at us which we only respond to with the appropriate counter-attack. I also believe that the Reitzmic government will not pull out troops anytime soon, as long as the war still exists and there's no secession declared. Our goal is to end your government's hostility and aggression, and the redevelopment and rebuilding of Istkalen as a proper democracy and better country.
Yuridiana Yahontov
Interim Deputy Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag -
The Kingdom of Spain and myself would be willing to help Istkalen in its transition if we can guarantee the safety of any diplomat going there first. Even if I applaud your spirit of democracy, Councillor Echeteran, you might need to understand that not many believe it is possible, but if you can guarantee this, I would be willing to help Istkalen and establish a transitory Government only made by Istkalen and monitored by the European Union.
But now, let me go speech per speech, because I find some things quite funny and even not serious. Ms. Yahontov, you need to trust in the European Union, or at least in the European Council. It's obvious the Commission is unable to monitor this, so it will be the Council who monitors this. Then Cllr. Echteran has made a very interesting statement that I could agree with, according to the released statements by the Istkalen's Government which allow me to doubt they are one-sided. A Vardic occupation makes more sense than a Reitzmic Occupation, as if you look to the South of Reitzmag, where Copala City is being oppressed since the end of February and the Government has to exhiliate. That really says something about the whole experience of the Reitzmic occupation pack.
Then Councillor Yahontov is right about one thing, but we need to take into accountability another: The previous Istkalenian Government was kicked out from power thanks to a Coup d'Etat; so even if Reitzmag has the right to answer proportionally, you cannot come here and deny the truth of war, both of you cannot. And then Councillor Echteran says something that, if it's true, should be heavily condemned and refused by this chamber: Cllr. Yahontov, is Reitzmag arresting local politicians and constructing walls around cities? Is Reitzmag annexing almost half of Istkalen? Is it denying people national sovereignty and basic democracy? Are you glorifying jail as a method to win a war or to stop a demonstration? Are you going to leave the Istkalenian territory once the war ends? These questions deserve an answer, and I'll get them by a way or another. If we need to push forward an investigation in the Council about these things, I will be the first Councillor to propose it. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these things were true, just like the jail trip of Ms. Areai after the Copalan Government solved everything peacefully or the Copalan Autonomy supression and then, suspension of the agreement. Does Reitzmag know what shame is? Because if they do, then I can't understand the criteria's changes a lot of times per month.
Then Councillor Yahontov once again, giving us a statement to put in a meme: "Reitzmag's main goal is to ensure that there is real democracy before we leave". Eastern Haane, Copala City, we will never forget you, Reitzmag will, as always, put their most shameful interventions in the WC and then let them go. The problem is that the pipe gets blocked, and all the shameful things Reitzmag does can't go. One day, the pipe will explode, and everything will come back to the WC. But apart from this metaphore, Ms. Yahontov confirms they want to occupy a country! How lovely, how democratical. Herself answered all my questions before getting to know them. And about the transitional authority idea, I'll be very clear: Not under Reitzmic monitor. If you want thaat kind of transition, then leave it to the ones that have some common sense: else a Vardic transitional authority or an EU transitional authority controlled by the Council and in which Reitzmag, as the other countries which by the way, were declared war to, will have a voice and a vote, just like the Istkalenian Councillor.
And on the Reitzmic Imperialism, Ms. Yahontov, the Reitzmic Empire has not disolved yet. Copala City is being brutally occupied, brutally repressed cause Simon Bridges wants to see just one territory around his lands. Reitzmag can't annex lands, and I hope the Council is here to stop this massive injustice. And Ms. Yahontov, one last thing: when you say "Reitzmag also has a no-first strike policy", just remember Eastern Haane. Now, who has a no-first strike policy? Thank you very much.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain -
Mr. Tusk, will you shut the hell up? Do you know what kind of situation there is? The situation is no longer peaceful, it is warfare and therefore the laws of war are what governs at this point. The European Union has no authority to govern over Reitzmic sovereignty and its exercise of its democratic rights to respond to the conflict and remove the hostile government of Istkalen. Therefore, you Mr. Tusk and other members of the European Council that have nothing to do with the situation have no right to tell us what we can and cannot do. And for your information, our Vardic friends were there to help us ensure that Istkalen pays the price for it's aggressive decision to declare war and cross the border of Reitzmag.
So one thing is for sure, the EU will not intervene in a conflict that it is not affected. Reitzmag and Vayinaod shall reserve the right to conduct what must be to end the conflict. Reitzmag and Vayinaod are not puppets of the EU and our conduct of sovereign rights shall not be affected by any decision that the EU makes. And to warn you, if you take any step and intervene, you will regret your worst decision and you will likely start losing members. Mark my word, the EU shall not intervene or else you will see the worst day of the EU.
Yuridiana Yahontov
Interim Deputy Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag -
Cllr. Yahontov, those kind of expressions shall be kept out of the chamber. I will not shut up and nobody here will ever make me go silent and retain my opinions. And actually I know what's going up over there. War, death, massive destruction on both sides. Still, you are making a wrong statement once again Ms. Yahontov: The European Union nor myself pretend to go over the Reitzmic sovereignty, but it's supporting the proportional answer from the Kingdom of Reitzmag against Istkalen, as everybody is right now. But, even if you tend to forget many things Ms. Yahontov, let me remember Reitzmag is still an European Union member, and Istkalen declared war on every single EU member state, even if many took it as a joke. Then, it's appropiate for the EU to have a role in shaping a future government for Istkalen, just a supervisor or whatever, as the main stuff should be left to Vayinaod and your country together. No country shall act alone on the prosecution of peace. Reitzmag is still an EU member, so the Commission or any European high-rank has the right to be there and to mediate or even set some conditions on behalf of every country which has been declared war. The EU is then involved in this conflict.
And you are warning myself and all of us here like if you were a dictator or something like that. How can that be considerate with the other Councillors? I can't mediate on that conflict, because first of all I won't offer myself for that and sencondly, I'm just the Deputy Speaker of the European Council. But Councillor Yahontov, a lesson for future statements on the chamber: save your bad words for the street. This is not a circus, this is not a reality show; this is the European Council and being serious is required. Thank you.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain -
I would like to say any transitional government must include Reitzmag. Reitzmag have acted entirely according to international law in defending itself and hasn't comitted any crimes that we know of in this instance. I agree a transitional authority needs more than Reitzmag and Vayinaod just to make sure proposals are fair and balanced , for example bringing in nations like Mennrimiak , Inquista and possibly nations like ourselves who have also committed to helping in any transition. I also believe we shouldn't punish or ask for steep reparations as those only hurt the people and set up a nation for more instability as shown in the past , we all need to move on and help Istkalen develop the best democracy it can and also invest in its infrastructure to rebuild it as a nation and get human services up and running once again. The people should not suffer for this , again we are ready and waiting to help in this.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe , Councillour for United Duchies
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Councillor Mizarchi-Roscoe, Reitzmag, in its actions, has occupied our cities, invading the homes of our citizens wantonly, tearing apart democratic municipal governments. It has shot upon our cities without prompting; has raised its own flags over our plains and mountains. It has demanded the annexation of some of our territories; they will surely demand ever more.
We have surrendered not because we have given in to this annexation, but because we do not know what horrors their forces would inflict upon our people. They shot upon cities without military presence; what will come next? The indiscriminate bombing of our cities, thousands of years old? The launching of missile upon missile as to exterminate our people and break their will?
We cannot allow for the total extermination of our people - something that Reitzmag, in its horrific revenge for acts committed by a government that has been overthrown, whose members are standing trial for their terrible crimes in the courts of our nation, so desperately wants to do.
We are re-establishing democracy; we have invited this transitional government solely to prove that we are democratic, and to help us in this task - to show that we are not the crazed ideologues of the past regime.
Gertrude Echteran
Councillor for Istkalen -
All you have said are exaggerations my dear Coun. Echteran. Reitzmag and Vayinaod as a coalition reserves the right to reform your government and ensure that these situations no longer happen. Both countries occupied your country due to its actions causing threat to national security. And now that your country is seceding its hostility, we also inform you that you will no longer be the representative of your country to the European Council, unless you run for the new election that would happen under the supervision of the coalition. And to be fair, those who committed those horrible acts should stand trial before the coalition, especially Reitzmag, as they committed those acts against the foreign countries.
Yuridiana Yahontov
Interim Deputy Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag -
Councillor Yahontov, you have no authority over my position; we have no indication that you are simply gibberishing as you seem to enjoy doing day in and day out. The people of Istkalen and the people of Istkalen alone have power over my position; those they have affirmed as representing them have chosen me to temporarily serve as Councillor until elections can be safely held in Istkalen.
Gertrude Echteran
Councillor for Istkalen -
In any case, we should all know the attitude of your country towards justice - you tried a woman in your country of crimes against humanity committed in another - said country begging your government to allow her to be tried in courts that had been set up for years. It is no surprise, as such, that you are again repeating this awful behavior; taking people who attempted to snuff out entire minorities in Istkalen by force, and trying them in your country for comparatively miniscule crimes.
You are an anti-democrat, a gibberishing, idiotic, anti-democrat. You have no authority over Istkalen until the people of Istkalen accept Reitzmag, which they will never do.
Gertrude Echteran
Councillor for Istkalen -
Discussion on this will continue until a motion is made or proceedings are closed.
Charles Michel
Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet
The Kingdom of Spain
