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    Amendment to the European Council Political Groups Act 2016

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    • Istkalen
      Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

      Councillor Mizrachi Roscoe, the issue is that this is not in the spirit of what Eurogroups were meant to be. Your final point I will respond to only by saying that it has been illegal since 2016, merely unenforced. Only Commissioners and candidates in Councillor elections have been able to become associate members from the very beginning.

      There is also evidently an issue when namecalling and extremely vulgar language - an informal expression comes to mind - enters this most sacred of chambers.

      Iras Tilkanas
      Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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      • Spain
        Spain last edited by

        Debate on this shall CONTINUE until 14:24 GMT on January 3rd, 2022.

        Donald Tusk
        Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

        The Kingdom of Spain
        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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        • Inimicus
          Inimicus EU last edited by

          The Empire of Inimicus supports the idea of this Act. Inimician Councillors have not been part of Eurogroups or Europarties or whatever the present incarnation may be termed, for over half a decade now. We see no real benefit to Eurogroups, and would rather they were done away with altogether. I nevertheless want to ask Cllr Tilkanas, whose good intentions with this proposal I fully appreciate, what purpose her including prospective Councillors, i.e. those standing in national elections to this Council, in her proposed ban on Associate Membership. If Eurogroups are to survive, should voters not be given transparency on which Eurogroup their candidates would join?

          Nicholas Benfield
          Empire of Inimicus

          The Empire of Inimicus
          Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
          Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
          Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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          • Spain
            Spain last edited by Spain

            I would like to offer my partial support to Councillor Tilkanas on this amendment, but I need to ask a question to the honourable Istkalenian Councillor whom I wish could also answer Councillor Benield's questions to finally decide what I will do. My question is about the removal of Article IV within Section II, would its removal mean no Eurogroup would be allowed to campaign for a candidate for the European Commission?

            To allow Councillor Tilkanas answer Mr. Benfield and my questions, Debate will be extended for 48 hours, until 20:00 GMT on January 5th, 2022.

            Donald Tusk
            Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

            The Kingdom of Spain
            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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            • Istkalen
              Istkalen EU last edited by

              The restrictions I proposed are solely meant to reduce the level of politicking that I have seen in recent months, which have been high and have contributed to intense and polarizing discourse. I will consent to an amendment allowing candidates for the position of Councillor to be members of Eurogroups - but not members of the Commission. Allowing members of the Commission to be members of Eurogroups has caused the Council to become background for Commission elections, which have overtaken every other aspect of regional politics and become incredibly toxic. Removing Eurogroups from this context will hopefully reduce this toxicity and also restore the importance of the Council over the Commission.

              In this vein, I propose the following amendment. Some

              AMENDMENT I

              SECTION III. MEMBERSHIP OF POLITICAL GROUPS

              1. Membership of Political Groups is restricted to individual European Councillors.

              2. Associate Membership is restricted to European Commissioners, current candidates in elections to the European Commission or in national elections to the European Council interim and deputy councillors serving on a temporary basis due to the incapacitation or absence of a nation's main councillor, in addition to current candidates in national elections to the European Council.
                a) Individuals and entities not belonging to these categories who are currently associate members of Political Groups are to be immediately expelled.

              Iras Tilkanas
              Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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              • Inimicus
                Inimicus EU last edited by

                The Empire of Inimicus will support this amendment, and with it, the larger Amendment to the Act.

                Nicholas Benfield

                The Empire of Inimicus
                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                • Spain
                  Spain last edited by

                  Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. There is ONE amendment, which has been proposed by Cllr. Tilkanas. The amendment is thus:

                  Amendment I - Cllr. Tilkanas

                  SECTION III. MEMBERSHIP OF POLITICAL GROUPS

                  1. Membership of Political Groups is restricted to individual European Councillors.
                  2. Associate Membership is restricted to European Commissioners, current candidates in elections to the European Commission or in national elections to the European Council interim and deputy councillors serving on a temporary basis due to the incapacitation or absence of a nation's main councillor, in addition to current candidates in national elections to the European Council.
                    a) Individuals and entities not belonging to these categories who are currently associate members of Political Groups are to be immediately expelled.

                  Voting on amendments will commence NOW and will last until 16:12 GMT on January 13th, 2022.


                  I vote AGAINST the amendment.

                  Donald Tusk
                  Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                  The Kingdom of Spain
                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                  • Inimicus
                    Inimicus EU last edited by

                    The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR the Amendment.

                    Nicholas Benfield

                    The Empire of Inimicus
                    Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                    Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                    Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                    • BrumBrum
                      BrumBrum Commission @Inimicus last edited by BrumBrum

                      On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST this ammendment
                      James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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                      • Istkalen
                        Istkalen EU last edited by

                        On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.

                        I would also like to request a voting extension.

                        Iras Tilkanas
                        Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                        • GANIA
                          GANIA EU last edited by

                          EUROPE:
                          On behalf of the Federal Republic of Gania, we communicate our vote that AGAINST

                          counselor FOR GANIA
                          Pedro Bordaberry

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                          • Spain
                            Spain last edited by

                            Voting on amendments has concluded, after being extended for two extra days. With 2 votes FOR and 3 votes AGAINST, Amendment I has been REJECTED.


                            Final voting begins NOW and will last until 11:30 GMT on January 18th, 2022.

                            Donald Tusk
                            Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                            The Kingdom of Spain
                            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                            • Istkalen
                              Istkalen EU last edited by

                              On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.

                              Iras Tilkanas
                              Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                              • Inimicus
                                Inimicus EU last edited by

                                Unfortunately, due to the rejection of Cllr Tilkanas's amendment, the Empire of Inimicus must vote AGAINST this proposal.

                                Nicholas Benfield
                                Deputy Speaker and Cllr for Inimicus

                                The Empire of Inimicus
                                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                                • Spain
                                  Spain last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                  Donald Tusk
                                  Councillor for Spain

                                  The Kingdom of Spain
                                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                  • Istkalen
                                    Istkalen EU last edited by

                                    Voting has ended. With one vote FOR and two votes AGANST, this amendment has FAILED.

                                    Iras Tilkanas
                                    Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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