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    Amendment to the European Council Political Groups Act 2016

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    • Inimicus
      Inimicus EU last edited by

      The Empire of Inimicus supports the idea of this Act. Inimician Councillors have not been part of Eurogroups or Europarties or whatever the present incarnation may be termed, for over half a decade now. We see no real benefit to Eurogroups, and would rather they were done away with altogether. I nevertheless want to ask Cllr Tilkanas, whose good intentions with this proposal I fully appreciate, what purpose her including prospective Councillors, i.e. those standing in national elections to this Council, in her proposed ban on Associate Membership. If Eurogroups are to survive, should voters not be given transparency on which Eurogroup their candidates would join?

      Nicholas Benfield
      Empire of Inimicus

      The Empire of Inimicus
      Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
      Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
      Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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      • Spain
        Spain last edited by Spain

        I would like to offer my partial support to Councillor Tilkanas on this amendment, but I need to ask a question to the honourable Istkalenian Councillor whom I wish could also answer Councillor Benield's questions to finally decide what I will do. My question is about the removal of Article IV within Section II, would its removal mean no Eurogroup would be allowed to campaign for a candidate for the European Commission?

        To allow Councillor Tilkanas answer Mr. Benfield and my questions, Debate will be extended for 48 hours, until 20:00 GMT on January 5th, 2022.

        Donald Tusk
        Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

        The Kingdom of Spain
        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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        • Istkalen
          Istkalen EU last edited by

          The restrictions I proposed are solely meant to reduce the level of politicking that I have seen in recent months, which have been high and have contributed to intense and polarizing discourse. I will consent to an amendment allowing candidates for the position of Councillor to be members of Eurogroups - but not members of the Commission. Allowing members of the Commission to be members of Eurogroups has caused the Council to become background for Commission elections, which have overtaken every other aspect of regional politics and become incredibly toxic. Removing Eurogroups from this context will hopefully reduce this toxicity and also restore the importance of the Council over the Commission.

          In this vein, I propose the following amendment. Some

          AMENDMENT I

          SECTION III. MEMBERSHIP OF POLITICAL GROUPS

          1. Membership of Political Groups is restricted to individual European Councillors.

          2. Associate Membership is restricted to European Commissioners, current candidates in elections to the European Commission or in national elections to the European Council interim and deputy councillors serving on a temporary basis due to the incapacitation or absence of a nation's main councillor, in addition to current candidates in national elections to the European Council.
            a) Individuals and entities not belonging to these categories who are currently associate members of Political Groups are to be immediately expelled.

          Iras Tilkanas
          Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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          • Inimicus
            Inimicus EU last edited by

            The Empire of Inimicus will support this amendment, and with it, the larger Amendment to the Act.

            Nicholas Benfield

            The Empire of Inimicus
            Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
            Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
            Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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            • Spain
              Spain last edited by

              Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. There is ONE amendment, which has been proposed by Cllr. Tilkanas. The amendment is thus:

              Amendment I - Cllr. Tilkanas

              SECTION III. MEMBERSHIP OF POLITICAL GROUPS

              1. Membership of Political Groups is restricted to individual European Councillors.
              2. Associate Membership is restricted to European Commissioners, current candidates in elections to the European Commission or in national elections to the European Council interim and deputy councillors serving on a temporary basis due to the incapacitation or absence of a nation's main councillor, in addition to current candidates in national elections to the European Council.
                a) Individuals and entities not belonging to these categories who are currently associate members of Political Groups are to be immediately expelled.

              Voting on amendments will commence NOW and will last until 16:12 GMT on January 13th, 2022.


              I vote AGAINST the amendment.

              Donald Tusk
              Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

              The Kingdom of Spain
              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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              • Inimicus
                Inimicus EU last edited by

                The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR the Amendment.

                Nicholas Benfield

                The Empire of Inimicus
                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                • BrumBrum
                  BrumBrum Commission @Inimicus last edited by BrumBrum

                  On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST this ammendment
                  James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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                  • Istkalen
                    Istkalen EU last edited by

                    On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.

                    I would also like to request a voting extension.

                    Iras Tilkanas
                    Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                    • GANIA
                      GANIA EU last edited by

                      EUROPE:
                      On behalf of the Federal Republic of Gania, we communicate our vote that AGAINST

                      counselor FOR GANIA
                      Pedro Bordaberry

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                      • Spain
                        Spain last edited by

                        Voting on amendments has concluded, after being extended for two extra days. With 2 votes FOR and 3 votes AGAINST, Amendment I has been REJECTED.


                        Final voting begins NOW and will last until 11:30 GMT on January 18th, 2022.

                        Donald Tusk
                        Acting Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                        The Kingdom of Spain
                        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                        • Istkalen
                          Istkalen EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.

                          Iras Tilkanas
                          Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                          • Inimicus
                            Inimicus EU last edited by

                            Unfortunately, due to the rejection of Cllr Tilkanas's amendment, the Empire of Inimicus must vote AGAINST this proposal.

                            Nicholas Benfield
                            Deputy Speaker and Cllr for Inimicus

                            The Empire of Inimicus
                            Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                            Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                            Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                            • Spain
                              Spain last edited by

                              On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                              Donald Tusk
                              Councillor for Spain

                              The Kingdom of Spain
                              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                              • Istkalen
                                Istkalen EU last edited by

                                Voting has ended. With one vote FOR and two votes AGANST, this amendment has FAILED.

                                Iras Tilkanas
                                Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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