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    Amendment to the Nuclear Proliferation Act 2009

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    • Istkalen
      Istkalen EU last edited by

      Debate will continue until 12:00 GMT on 5 April 2022.

      Cllr. Tusk, I don't quite understand the justification for your amendment. You talk about an entity which does not exist, and then say that its "recognition is in limbo." Let me remind you all, the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics, per motion of this Council, is the sole legitimate authority over Icholasen, and is further a full member of the European Union. There is thus no such thing, legally, as this "United Dominions" you refer to; it is a figment of the imagination.

      We must also recognize that the Empire of Inimicus is currently actively engaged in a diplomatic conflict. I understand that the UNSR may be to an extent as well, but it, unlike the Empire of Inimicus, has not yet reciprocated.

      Iras Tilkanas
      Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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      • Istkalen
        Istkalen EU last edited by

        I propose the following amendment:

        AMENDMENT I

        SECTION II. THE MAKEUP OF THE ENAA

        1. The ENAA shall consist of five members, four of which will be permanent members and one three of which will be permanent members and two of which will be selected by the European Council every 12 months. This single elected member must be a non-nuclear state and will vacate their seat if they obtain nuclear weapons.

        2. The four permanent members of nations with representation on the ENAA are as follows:
          a. The Aelir of the Kendro-Laatzenian Dominions of the Duxburian Union
          b. The Prime Minister of the Apostolic Kingdom of Angleter
          c. The Archbishop of the Most Blessed State of Inquista
          d. The Korojaunu of the United Dominions of Icholasen The Emperor of Inimicus Icholasen

        3. The nations that will have representation on the ENAA should assign their most powerful political figure to the role.

        4. To ratify a vote within the ENAA, a majority of 51% or greater of the present voting members is required. For there to be a valid vote, a minimum quorum of three members must be obtained.

        5. For six months after this clause comes into effect, the representation of Icholasen shall be suspended and replaced, on a temporary basis, by Inimicus. After the end of this six months, the Council will hold a regular vote on whether to further extend this suspension for any period of time.


        Iras Tilkanas
        Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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        • Ineland
          Ineland EU last edited by Ineland

          While we welcome the reintroduction by our most esteemed colleague from Spain of a legislative proposal to tackle the controversial situation surrounding Icholasen's role within the ENAA, we thank and support Speaker Tilkanas' proposal. We are thankful as it picks up on our proposal to implement a temporary substitution by Inimicus, whose Emperor we are sure will do a magnificent labor, while enshrining a six-month review of this change in the ENAA's composition. At the same time, we consider it positive that the Speaker's proposal solves the longstanding issue with conflicting writing in points 2 and 3 of section II of this act.

          Prince Charles of Évere-Dancourt
          Councillor for Ineland

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          Sovereign Minister-President European Councillor
          King Jean IV Kasper Merckx Dominic Ferry
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          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

            I'd like it be on the record that the decision to withdraw the amendment was solely by the members of the Assembly for the European Council and that I had not in any way affected the decision, for my sole purpose in such body is to mediate its proceedings and deliver the decisions to this chamber. However, that aside, I do personally oppose the inclusion of any country actively engaged in a diplomatic conflict to a neutral body. And for this reason, I do not support this amendment especially because the nation being suggested to be seated in the ENAA is a nation in diplomatic conflict against my nation. Despite the claims that the Emperor of Inimicus is not impartial, he is likely to use his position to block our nation from acquiring nuclear weapons if it does decide again to do so.

            But then again, I'd like to remind everyone that the decision to support or oppose this act lies on the AEC. Although, it is very likely they will vote against this act.

            Dame Yuridiana Yahontov GCC
            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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            HM King George
            Monarch

            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
            Prime Minister

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            • Istkalen
              Istkalen EU last edited by

              Debate will be extended to 12 April 2022 at 22:00 GMT.

              Iras Tilkanas
              Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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              • BrumBrum
                BrumBrum Commission @Istkalen last edited by

                I would honestly be opposed to anyone in Telum or ECON getting an additional seat or seat on the ENAA. I believe this would threaten the neutrality of the organisation by giving all the power to one alliance by giving them 3 out of 5 seats. I believe it should be a nation like Fremet or some other nation that is neutral yet has experience of nuclear weapons.

                James Mizrachi-Roscoe , Councillor for United Duchies

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                • Duxburian Union
                  Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                  The seat should not be politicized. To restate a point I raised in an earlier debate, Triumvirate nations held most of the seats for something like 13 years, but not once in all that time did anyone object to that or even express concerns about neutrality. And Triumvirate nations held far more military power than current alliances in the EU. If that arrangement was not concerning, why would a Telum nation be? And why is it being politicized in the first place? Inimicus is clearly senior to Fremet. Taking a junior nuclear power over a senior one needs serious, non-political justifications.

                  Wesley Greene
                  Councillor of the Duxburian Union

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                  • C
                    Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                    There exists no reason to remove Icholasen from the ENAA, although the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia sees rewording of the act, as proposed by Councillor Tilkanas, as necessary. The Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia is ready to consider expanding the permanent membership status in the ENAA to Inimicus, but only if permanent membership status is not removed from any state. That has been our position previously and it will remain our position.

                    Václav Kohout
                    Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                    • Inimicus
                      Inimicus EU last edited by

                      Cllr Mizrachi-Roscoe's statement is a display of his partisanship and narrow-minded politics-based thinking rather than the Inimician government's. He will know, as much as everyone in this Council knows, that the Inimician government is not Reitzmag or the Duchies. The Inimician government and the individuals it has sent to the European stage have a proven track record of fair and decent evaluation of legal and political matters -- simply look at Inimician Chief Justice Benjamin Steyn's term at the head of the ECoJ, or the various important contributions my predecessors and I have made in this Council. I stated it before, and will state it again: Inimicus would not, in any way, selectively block ENAA applications based on alliance structures. Doing such would not only be petty, childish, and stupid, but would also damage the credibility a body like the ENAA needs.

                      Cllr Kahout raises an interesting point, although I suspect simply adding another nation to the ENAA membership was not the purpose of this Amendment, or indeed the Amendment raised by Cllr Yahontov earlier. Nevertheless, should more Councillors voice support for this strategy, I shall propose an amendment accordingly.

                      Nicholas Benfield
                      Deputy Speaker

                      The Empire of Inimicus
                      Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                      Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                      Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                      • Istkalen
                        Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

                        Debate has ended. There is one amendment for vote.


                        AMENDMENT I

                        SECTION II. THE MAKEUP OF THE ENAA

                        1. The ENAA shall consist of five members, four of which will be permanent members and one of which will be selected by the European Council every 12 months. This single elected member must be a non-nuclear state and will vacate their seat if they obtain nuclear weapons.

                        2. The four permanent members of nations with representation on the ENAA are as follows:
                          a. The Aelir of the Kendro-Laatzenian Dominions of the Duxburian Union
                          b. The Prime Minister of the Apostolic Kingdom of Angleter
                          c. The Archbishop of the Most Blessed State of Inquista
                          d. The Korojaunu of the United Dominions of Icholasen The Emperor of Inimicus Icholasen

                        3. The nations that will have representation on the ENAA should assign their most powerful political figure to the role.

                        4. To ratify a vote within the ENAA, a majority of 51% or greater of the present voting members is required. For there to be a valid vote, a minimum quorum of three members must be obtained.

                        5. For six months after this clause comes into effect, the representation of Icholasen shall be suspended and replaced, on a temporary basis, by Inimicus. After the end of this six months, the Council will hold a regular vote on whether to further extend this suspension for any period of time.


                        Voting on amendments starts NOW and will continue until 23:59 GMT on 20 April 2022.

                        Iras Tilkanas
                        Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                        • Inimicus
                          Inimicus EU last edited by

                          The Empire of Inimicus votes AGAINST the Amendment.

                          Nicholas Benfield
                          Deputy Speaker

                          The Empire of Inimicus
                          Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                          Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                          Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                          • Elthize
                            Elthize ECoJ last edited by

                            The State of Elthize votes AGAINST this amendment.


                            Liam Zachary, Councillor for Elthize

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                            • Spain
                              Spain last edited by

                              I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                              Donald Tusk
                              Councillor for Spain

                              The Kingdom of Spain
                              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                              • Nofoaga
                                Nofoaga EU @Spain last edited by

                                The Republic of Nofoaga votes AGAINST this amendment.

                                Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                                EU-Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                                • Inimicus
                                  Inimicus EU last edited by

                                  Madam Speaker, with your permission, I suggest we move to the next stage of proceedings with this proposal. With four votes AGAINST and no votes FOR, the only amendment has been defeated and the motion is as it stands.

                                  Final voting begins NOW and ends 29th APRIL 2022 AT 14:30 BST.

                                  The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR this Amendment.

                                  Nicholas Benfield
                                  Deputy Speaker

                                  The Empire of Inimicus
                                  Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                  Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                  Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                                  • Spain
                                    Spain last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR the Amendment.

                                    Donald Tusk
                                    Councillor for Spain

                                    The Kingdom of Spain
                                    His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                    President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                    Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                    • Nofoaga
                                      Nofoaga EU @Spain last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                      Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                                      EU-Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                                      • Elthize
                                        Elthize ECoJ last edited by

                                        The State of Elthize ABSTAINS from voting.


                                        Liam Zachary, Councillor for Elthize

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                                        • Leagio
                                          Leagio ECoJ last edited by Leagio

                                          On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I ABSTAIN in this vote.

                                          Linoel Morel
                                          EU Councilor for Leagio

                                          President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                          Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                          EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                          • BrumBrum
                                            BrumBrum Commission @Leagio last edited by

                                            On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST this ammendment
                                            James Mizrachi Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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