I frankly do not see the need for this bill.We deploy european forces when there is no other option. So far thew J-TAI have shown themselves to be competent, uphold human rights and uphold democracy. There is simply no need for outside intervention in my oppinion as J-TAI seem to be handling things fine.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies
The J-TAI has just, directly in front of you, said that intervention is necessary in Istkalen. How can they control a people who now literally believe that they are wolves and serpents? To crack down would invite a war of devastating proportions. A foreign intrvention, by nations and organizations which the people of Istkalen thankfully are not driven by the malevolent to endlessly conspiracize about, would end the situation peacefully and allow for the establishment of an independent, democratic, and peaceful state, which is something that I'm sure everyone here wants.
Iras Tilkanas
Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen
I need not tell you gentlemen that the Istkalen situation is very serious. That must be apparent to all intelligent people. I think one difficulty is that the problem is one of such enormous complexity that the very mass of facts presented to the public by press and radio make it exceedingly difficult for the man in the street to reach a clear appraisement of the situation.
The remedy lies in us as Europeans to seek a prompt solution to prevent civil conflict and violence in the region and to offer help to those who need it, and Istkalen needs us.
I have been informed by Her Majesty's Government, that we will be participating in this Peacekeeping Mission, if approved by the hereby members of course with the approval of this motion.
Immediately, we shall out forward an International Trust Fund to help us in this effort, for those who wish to support this program, that should be a joint one, agreed to by a number, if not all European nations.
Emma Granger,
Councillor for Montenbourg
Debate will be extended for 48 hours, until 08:42 GMT on September 19th, 2021.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain
We recognise the instability in Istkalen and acknowledge that it will take work to resolve. Our Customary Logistics Council has voted that we will participate in the Peacekeeping Mission for Istkalen if this is approved.
Even now, we will continue to welcome asylum-seekers from Istkalen to our shores in hopes of a better life. We are in the EU for a reason, and we would want someone to help us if we needed it.
Cllr Dina
May this go into vote? Istkalen is disintegrating as we speak.
Iras Tilkanas
Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen
Before I open the final voting, I wanted to say some words about the motion introduced by Councillor Tilkanas. I'm very sorry for the delay, but as you all Councillors might understand, there are a lot of proposals and just one person to attend them all on time.
I reckon the situation in Istkalen has not been the best since the war with both Vayinaod and Reitzmag that first was declared to the whole of Europe, which luckily didn't take it seriously. I do agree with you, Councillor Tilkannas, when you say it's the former Republic fault; but we cannot forget we have already had several cases of severe inestability in the region such as Eastern Haane, as you all might remember or at least be aware of. But, I have some concerns about Clause IX.
Clause IX just needs a technical amendment, as we should consider the withdrawal if the Commission considers its mission is accomplished. I will now submit my amendment and give a 12 hours extension period for Councillors who might think the same or want to comment my amendments.
Amendment I
IX. The peacekeeping mission may only be withdrawn by supermajority vote of the European Council or if the European Commission, after a debate and vote, believes their mission is accomplished.
Debate will be extended for 12 hours, until 04:15 GMT on September 23rd, 2021.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain
I agree with the amendment presented by the Deputy Speaker it is imperative that either the Commission or this Council withdraw if necessary.
Emma Granger,
Councillor for Montenbourg
First of all, allow me to say that Czech Slavia fully supports a peaceful resolution of all issues prevalent in Istkalen and peaceful and harmonious transition of power back to the people of Istkalen. As the involvement of the Peacekeepers is requested by the Republic of Istkalen and the Joint Transitional Authority for Istkalen I will vote for this motion.
However similarly to the Deputy Speaker Tusk and Councillor Gragner I consider an amendment to the motion necessary. I think the two affected actors, the Republic of Istkalen and the J-TAI, also to have a major voice about the presence of the peacekeepers. I would not support any action that could become an occupation against the wishes of the people of Istkalen or that would be preventing a peaceful and harmonious transition of power.
For that reason I propose the following amendment.
SECTION I
XI. The peacekeeping mission must be withdrawn at the request of the Republic of Istkalen or the Joint Transitional Authority for Istkalen
V谩clav Kohout
Councillor for Czech Slavia
I think your proposal is also understandable, Councillor Kohout, so would you rather support a combination of your amendment and my amendment? I think it would be pretty understandable to mix both and convert them into one, instead of having to vote on 2 different amendments.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain
I give my permission to mend the two proposed amendments into one, as long as the text of amendment I proposed doesn't change and the meaning of the amendment proposed to you doesn't change either.
V谩clav Kohout
Councillor for Czech Slavia
I then request the Speaker to take into consideration a single amendment:
SECTION I
IX. The peacekeeping mission may only be withdrawn by supermajority vote of the European Council, if the European Commission, after a debate and vote, believes their mission is accomplished; or at the request of the Republic of Istkalen or the Joint Transitional Authority for Istkalen.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain
I approve this amendment. We are working together for a better union.
Emma Granger,
Councillor for Montenbourg
I again request that this motion move into voting.
Iras Tilkanas
Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen
Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. There is ONE amendment, which was proposed by myself, Cllr. Tusk and integrating the proposed amendment proposed by Cllr. Kohout. The amendment is thus:
Amendment I - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk, co-authored by Cllr. Kohout
SECTION I
IX. The peacekeeping mission may only be withdrawn by supermajority vote of the European Council, if the European Commission, after a debate and vote, believes their mission is accomplished; or at the request of the Republic of Istkalen or the Joint Transitional Authority for Istkalen.
Voting on amendments will commence NOW and will last until 12:09 GMT on September 30th, 2021.
I vote FOR the amendment.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain
On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this ammendment
James Mizrachi-Roscoe , Councillour for United Duchies
On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.
Iras Tilkanas
Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen
The Imperial Government does not believe the Commission has the mandate to engage with the deployment of peacekeeping forces, and thus votes AGAINST this Amendment.
Cllr Nicholas Benfield
On behalf of The Kingdom of Montenbourg I vote FOR this ammendment
Emma Granger,
Councillor for Montenbourg
I vote FOR this Amendment
V谩clav Kohout
Councillor for Czech Slavia
I frankly do not see the need for this bill.We deploy european forces when there is no other option. So far thew J-TAI have shown themselves to be competent, uphold human rights and uphold democracy. There is simply no need for outside intervention in my oppinion as J-TAI seem to be handling things fine.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies
The Kingdom of Spain
