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    Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 amendment proposal

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    • BrumBrum
      BrumBrum Commission last edited by BrumBrum

      Indeed it is , it is a joke a 4 year old can ruin proceedings in such a fashion therefore to adress this issue I propose the following amendment taking into account the previous one wouldn't fix the issue of the existing councillor.
      Amendment proposal:
      SECTION I. DEMOCRATIZATION OF THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL
      I. All members of the European Council, also known as Councillors, shall be directly and democratically elected to office by the people of their member state of origin.
      II. The governments of European Union member states may not appoint or dismiss their Councillor without following an official democratic process outlined in this Act.
      III. Speakers or invited guests in the chamber must be above the age of 16 unless authorized by the speaker as a special exception

      SECTION II. COUNCILLOR ELECTION PROCESSES
      I. Councillors may only (re)take their office within the European Council after satisfying a democratic processes in which all following conditions are met:
      a) A state-wide election was held to specifically choose who would fill the position of Councillor;
      b) The electorate directly voted for Councillor candidates on their ballot(s);
      c) Suffrage was universal and equal to all citizens that were of the legal voting age;
      d) The election process was generally seen as free and fair;
      e) Candidates for Councillor were able to freely nominate themselves;
      f) They successfully received the most votes at the end of the official voting process.
      g) Councillor candidates are above the age of 16 or age of majority of the nation in question, whichever is higher.
      h)Any councillor below the age of 16 shall be recalled from the day of this amendment going into force

      Tobias Johnson Farage

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      • M
        Montenbourg EU last edited by

        I agree with Council Speaker; now this proposal has a necessary spirit in the matters of age.

        But I do not agree with the push of making the position of European Councillors an elected position. This goes against the principle of self-determination of any of the European countries here present. Our internal policies set the determination of the how we as councillors are some sort of elected; forcing to do an election in countries where this is not custom, goes against the right of self determination of our countries to freely choose which system of governance goes in accord with our constitution and principles.

        Emma Granger
        Councillor for Montenbourg

        🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
        👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
        🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
        🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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        • Nofoaga
          Nofoaga EU last edited by

          Dear collegues, I want to make it clear first and foremost that I am in favor of democratizing the council and the way towards it through the election of councilors in their respective home countries.

          But I also want to make it clear that Section Two is against the Nofoaganese legislation that governs how political mandates and appointments are determined. I join my colleague from Montenbourg. This goes against the self-determination of member states and their possible national legislation.

          Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
          EU Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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          • Inquista
            Inquista last edited by

            Councillor Granger and Muzhare, Councillors are already elected positions. The Elected and Accountable Council Act has been in force for some time now. I also think Section II gives member states more than enough freedom on how to create and implement a democratic elections that follows their own customs or way of doing things in their own member states.

            Edward Firoux
            Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

            siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
            Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
            Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
            Councillor Karinn Lallana

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            • Inquista
              Inquista last edited by Inquista

              I will extend debate for another 24 hours, until 21:15 GMT on November 28th, 2020.

              Well, it appears our colleague in question seems to have perished in a blaze. On behalf of the European Council, we send our condolences to the families of those victimized by her actions.

              We can still go through to amend the EACA, but I think this proposal probably ought to be withdrawn.

              Edward Firoux
              Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

              siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
              Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
              Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
              Councillor Karinn Lallana

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by

                From the Councillor of the ridicolous and the extreme violation of the member states sovereignty, now we have an amendment to the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 which also pretends to violate member states sovereignty by adding more burocracy and stuff to our elections. I feel that the United Duchies' Councillor wants to destroy the principle of sovereignty with his latest amendments and Acts, and by the comments of my colleagues, I'm not the only one who thinks that.

                This proposal needs to be withdrawn and someone whose aim is the opposite to Cllr. Johnson Farage's shall amend this act in much better way than the chosen one. I have the feeling of losing time right now on a amendment we know it is not going to succeed, nor to be properly debated. So Councillor, I ask you to retire this proposal and let the Amendment task to anybody which doesn't pretend to destroy our Union with violations of our sovereignty by using the Council as a limitating institution.

                Donald D. Tusk
                Councillor for Spain

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • BrumBrum
                  BrumBrum Commission last edited by BrumBrum

                  While the member who caused this to be needed in question has tragically died and condolences to the family the fact that such a young councillor was allowed to be elected is crazy. This is why an age amendment is needed to stop any future incidences of the same type happening again. An age of majority or minimum age to be a councillor is needed and 16 does seem a sensible age given the age of majority in some countries so I don't see anything silly in the proposed amendments . Though the recall amendment may be a tad redundant now. This should not impact sovreignty too much beyond what is reasonable, i.e that the person elected is an adult. We must avoid a repeat incident.

                  Tobias Johnson Farage

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                  • Inquista
                    Inquista last edited by

                    Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. The Council shall vote on amendments until 00:45 GMT on December 4th, 2020. There are two amendments, both proposed by Councillor Johnson Farage:

                    Amendment I
                    SECTION I. DEMOCRATIZATION OF THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL
                    III. Speakers or invited guests in the chamber must be above the age of 16 unless authorized by the speaker as a special exception

                    Amendment II
                    SECTION II. COUNCILLOR ELECTION PROCESSES
                    I. Councillors may only (re)take their office within the European Council after satisfying a democratic processes in which all following conditions are met:
                    g) Councillor candidates are above the age of 16 or age of majority of the nation in question, whichever is higher.
                    h) Any councillor below the age of 16 shall be recalled from the day of this amendment going into force


                    I vote AGAINST both amendments.

                    Edward Firoux
                    Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                    siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                    Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                    Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                    Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                    • BrumBrum
                      BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                      On behalf of United Duchies I vote for both ammendements
                      Tobias Johnson Farage

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                      • Nofoaga
                        Nofoaga EU last edited by

                        On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote FOR both amendments.

                        Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                        EU Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                        • Spain
                          Spain last edited by

                          After seeing the purpose of the Amendment and the Explanations given, on behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this amendment.

                          The Kingdom of Spain
                          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                            Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote FOR both amendments .

                            Václav Kohout
                            Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                            • A
                              Alkharya EU last edited by Alkharya

                              On behalf of Alkharya, I vote AGAINST both amendments.


                              Councillor Aylin Gökçen of Alkharya

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                              • Inimicus
                                Inimicus EU last edited by

                                The Empire of Inimicus votes AGAINST both amendments.

                                Hetty Tilki

                                The Empire of Inimicus
                                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                                • Inquista
                                  Inquista last edited by

                                  With 4 votes for and 3 votes against, both amendments pass. The legislation has been updated to reflect the passed amendments. Final voting begins now and will last unti 04:15 GMT on December 7th, 2020.

                                  On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                  Edward Firoux
                                  Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                                  siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                  Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                  Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                  Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                                  • BrumBrum
                                    BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                                    For United Duchies I vote FOR this Amendment

                                    Tobias Johnson Farage

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                                    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote FOR this act.

                                      Friedrich van Allen
                                      Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                                      HM King George
                                      Monarch

                                      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                      Prime Minister

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                                        Alkharya EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of Alkharya, I ABSTAIN from voting.


                                        Councillor Aylin Gökçen of Alkharya

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