Mental Health Act 2021
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With all due respect to the globalist anti-sovreignty Emma Granger we all sympathise with mental health problems. As a father of a son who deals with the mental health issues every day of my son who suffers guilt from surviving a bombing and losing his brother to it I understand the severity of this issue. It saddens me every time I hear that poor soul say he wishes it was him in the ground rather than his brother but I cannot support this act. This is the imposition of a one size fits all solution on all states and will only increase Euroscepticism adding more powers to the EU. My stance on this is simple , I was elected as a Councillour for the freedom of my country and the sovereignty of my countries government. This is more meddling from do gooders interfering in what should be the realm of the nationstate causing more harm than good, social policy should remain in the hands of the nationstate and local communities who know their issues better as every state requires a different solution. Therefore I will vote against this act, I do not feel the EU should be interfering in this matter.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe , Councillour for United Duchies
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With all due respect Councillor Mizrachi, I believe that Mental health is a big issue in our Union. This is a bill that I greatly support, as it tackles a real problem that we are facing in society, as we are still in the midst of a mental health crisis. We must do everything in our power to tackle this, from as young an age as possible.
Is not that simple, is a complex issue that needs to be tackled not with speechs of soverignty but with hands of cooperation to those who needed the most. We have seen the data bringed by the European Health Organization we need to act. The way we’ve been dealing with mental health these days is absolutely abhorrent and is not working.
Emma Granger,
Councillor for Montenbourg -
With all due respect I understand the need for better mental health services but just having the EU force a solution is not the solution. Countries need space to deal with their own mental health issues , that will look different in every country. A centralised service in Europolis just won't help in that. You are mistaking co-operation for euro-federalism , we do not need to infringe on the sovreignty of the states of the Union and have a mental health legislation at European level. These things are better dealt with regionally and in nationstates where they will have a better idea of the issues in their nation and the pattern of mental health issues in their nation. There has been a tendency lately of certain European Do Gooders to think that the solution to every problem is the EU forcing its laws on the nations , you would do well to recognise social issues are best dealt with at a national level so each nation can find their own solution to the problem which will look different in every country.All you are achieving is frankly destroying the EU by pushing away states through taking their sovreignty away more and more , one law at a time.I also question the validity of a phone line surely a doctor and mental health professional is needed to diagnose properly in person , lets let the doctors do their jobs and keep out of their way.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies
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Before commenting on the bill, I must ask my former European Progressive Alliance colleague, Councillor Mizrachi-Roscoe, for some respect towards Councillors on the Council, as I believe that saying someone is a "globalist anti-sovereignty" person does not help to sum up to the debate, nor to set an example to the Europeans. We all know you are very excited now your new Eurogroup has been approved, I congratulate you for that, but save part of your excitement and qualifyings for your private group talks instead if possible.
The presented Act by Councillor Emma Granger from Montenbourg has a nice purpose, that cannot be denied, and I applaud Ms. Granger for her effort on the writing of this proposal as well as her multiple attempts to bring these kind of social problems to the Council and give them some prominence for some hours at least. Although that doesn't change my opinions concerning the proposal and that it needs some amending too, but I will wait for hearing other Councillors' thoughts before submitting the amendments needed.
I think this should be left to member states, simply because we cannot pretend to tackle problems in the same way a country from the north, the south or the west does. Cultures are different, methodology is different, and this unification of preveting systems might lead to a short time of chaos in which nobody knows what to do. When my children, now grown adults, were taught philosophy at school, sometimes they said it was too hard for them to listen to some of the dilemmas that are treated. Now, imagine kids from primary school, lots of them yet to lose their innocence, hearing about death, suicide, alzheimer and mental disorders. That is not what our kids need, not right now.
The European Mental Health Phone Service is actually an idea I like, but again wouldn't it be worse for those needed to unify everything under one single line? Wouldn't it increase waiting times? And my concern rises when we speak about these, as waiting times are really important in these kind of cases. And lastly, the 3rd section is also a nice idea, but again, it needs some amendments to make it fit for our current situation.
Debate on this shall CONTINUE until 22:33 GMT on October 4th, 2021.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain -
Debate is now over. Voting begins NOW and will last until 18:09 GMT on October 10th, 2021.
On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this Act.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain -
On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST this Act
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies -
On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote in FAVOR this Act.
Emma Granger
Councillor for Montenbourg -
The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR this Act.
Nicholas Benfield
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On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote AGAINST this act.
Yuridiana Yahontov
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag -
On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote FOR this Act.
Václav Kohout
Councillor for Czech Slavia -
On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this Act.
Bp. Karinn Lallana
Councillor for Inquista -
Voting has now concluded. With 4 votes FOR and 3 votes AGAINST, this bill has PASSED.
Donald Tusk
Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain