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    Mental Health Act 2021

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    • BrumBrum
      BrumBrum Commission last edited by BrumBrum

      With all due respect I understand the need for better mental health services but just having the EU force a solution is not the solution. Countries need space to deal with their own mental health issues , that will look different in every country. A centralised service in Europolis just won't help in that. You are mistaking co-operation for euro-federalism , we do not need to infringe on the sovreignty of the states of the Union and have a mental health legislation at European level. These things are better dealt with regionally and in nationstates where they will have a better idea of the issues in their nation and the pattern of mental health issues in their nation. There has been a tendency lately of certain European Do Gooders to think that the solution to every problem is the EU forcing its laws on the nations , you would do well to recognise social issues are best dealt with at a national level so each nation can find their own solution to the problem which will look different in every country.All you are achieving is frankly destroying the EU by pushing away states through taking their sovreignty away more and more , one law at a time.I also question the validity of a phone line surely a doctor and mental health professional is needed to diagnose properly in person , lets let the doctors do their jobs and keep out of their way.

      James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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      • Spain
        Spain last edited by Spain

        Before commenting on the bill, I must ask my former European Progressive Alliance colleague, Councillor Mizrachi-Roscoe, for some respect towards Councillors on the Council, as I believe that saying someone is a "globalist anti-sovereignty" person does not help to sum up to the debate, nor to set an example to the Europeans. We all know you are very excited now your new Eurogroup has been approved, I congratulate you for that, but save part of your excitement and qualifyings for your private group talks instead if possible.

        The presented Act by Councillor Emma Granger from Montenbourg has a nice purpose, that cannot be denied, and I applaud Ms. Granger for her effort on the writing of this proposal as well as her multiple attempts to bring these kind of social problems to the Council and give them some prominence for some hours at least. Although that doesn't change my opinions concerning the proposal and that it needs some amending too, but I will wait for hearing other Councillors' thoughts before submitting the amendments needed.

        I think this should be left to member states, simply because we cannot pretend to tackle problems in the same way a country from the north, the south or the west does. Cultures are different, methodology is different, and this unification of preveting systems might lead to a short time of chaos in which nobody knows what to do. When my children, now grown adults, were taught philosophy at school, sometimes they said it was too hard for them to listen to some of the dilemmas that are treated. Now, imagine kids from primary school, lots of them yet to lose their innocence, hearing about death, suicide, alzheimer and mental disorders. That is not what our kids need, not right now.

        The European Mental Health Phone Service is actually an idea I like, but again wouldn't it be worse for those needed to unify everything under one single line? Wouldn't it increase waiting times? And my concern rises when we speak about these, as waiting times are really important in these kind of cases. And lastly, the 3rd section is also a nice idea, but again, it needs some amendments to make it fit for our current situation.


        Debate on this shall CONTINUE until 22:33 GMT on October 4th, 2021.

        Donald Tusk
        Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

        The Kingdom of Spain
        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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        • Spain
          Spain last edited by

          Debate is now over. Voting begins NOW and will last until 18:09 GMT on October 10th, 2021.


          On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this Act.

          Donald Tusk
          Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

          The Kingdom of Spain
          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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          • BrumBrum
            BrumBrum Commission last edited by

            On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST this Act
            James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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            • M
              Montenbourg EU last edited by

              On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote in FAVOR this Act.

              Emma Granger
              Councillor for Montenbourg

              🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
              👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
              🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
              🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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              • Inimicus
                Inimicus EU last edited by

                The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR this Act.

                Nicholas Benfield

                The Empire of Inimicus
                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                  Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote AGAINST this act.

                  Yuridiana Yahontov
                  Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                  HM King George
                  Monarch

                  Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                  Prime Minister

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                  • C
                    Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                    On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote FOR this Act.

                    Václav Kohout
                    Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                    • Inquista
                      Inquista last edited by

                      On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this Act.

                      Bp. Karinn Lallana
                      Councillor for Inquista

                      siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                      Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                      Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                      Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                      • Spain
                        Spain last edited by

                        Voting has now concluded. With 4 votes FOR and 3 votes AGAINST, this bill has PASSED.

                        Donald Tusk
                        Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                        The Kingdom of Spain
                        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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