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    Amendment to the Nuclear Proliferation Act of 2009

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    • Fayrrendel
      Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

      I support Councilor Tilkanas' amendment. My government will not support Icholassen being removed as a permanent member of the ENAA, no matter how controversial the government might be. As it stands now however, the status of Icholasen is in a strange legal territory and as a result, I do not feel that Icholasen can fulfill this role at this time without their full ascension into the European Union. As a result, Ruthund will support the Empire of Inimicus as a member of the ENAA only in a provisional capacity until the question of Icholasen is resolved.

      Prince-Councilor Tony Odhinazen
      Councilor for Ruthund

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      • Vayinaod
        Vayinaod EU last edited by

        I think you can provide a very easy technical reason to why the UNSR or Icholasen should not be an ENAA member. It is unstable in the fact a coup, sudden change of government, whatever terminology you wish to use occurred virtually over night. It is not exactly the gold standard then for what one might call a 'stable' nuclear state. I think the UNSR should keep the legal license provided to Icholasen, if it is to be recognized as the legal successor state...however I think the content around how it came to be that state is a valid technical reason, rather than political one, for as to why it should not be on the ENAA for the present time.

        I think the Empire of Inimicus would be a more appropriate state to have on the ENAA at this time, especially as the UNSR potentially retransitions into the EU.

        Carita Falk
        Cllr. for the Archrepublic of Vayinaod

        Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
        Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
        EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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        • Istkalen
          Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

          While the Empire of Inimicus is a good option in terms of its seniority, I continue to have certain doubts in regard to its impartiality if it is to serve on a permanent basis. I do not have these same misgivings now, largely because current policy is pointing against the issues which I have; but it is certainly possible that, in the long term, over years, it might "swing in the opposite direction," so to speak, which seems, from a personal appraisal of the situation, well within the realm of possibility. Until very recently, the country appears to have taken a hard line against lefist states, refraining from engaging in diplomatic relations with several, most notably Czech Slavia, occasionally referring to what appear to be elements of their governments as "communist insurgents" in official state announcements, although perhaps I am mistaken on this point, I deeply apologize if I am.

          These are completely legitimate actions on the part of the Empire of Inimicus; I do not want to cast any moral judgement on this. However, I would seriously argue that these policies, while now abandoned, should still be partially taken into account when discussing a possible position on the ENAA, for they seem to imply that some, although far, far, from all, in the government of Inimicus view leftist states as inherently violent or unstable.

          While I understand that Fremet's nuclear license was granted only recently, I do not hold these same concerns regarding impartiality with them, and are presently more inclined, if it is absolutely necessary to remove Icholasen from the ENAA, to support their ascension.

          Iras TIlkanas
          Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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          • Inimicus
            Inimicus EU last edited by

            Speaker Tilkanas's point would be a valid one if we were talking about inter-state, one-to-one relations. If it were the Empire of Inimicus judging, by itself, whether to grant, say, Reitzmag, weapons of mass destruction without oversight or regulation. This is not the case. When a member of the ENAA, the only matter the Empire of Inimicus would judge is whether an applying state is stable and responsible enough to maintain a stockpile of nuclear weapons. And in doing so, the Empire's representatives would not resort to petty ideological disputes.

            You may remember, Speaker Tilkanas, that our Dear and Beloved Head of State was very nearly assassinated by a rogue, communist regime, and several other high-ranking members of our Government were indeed killed. In light of this, I question whether Inimician state outlets referring to the perpetrators of this heinous crime in strong words would affect the Empire's impartiality and capability to sit on the ENAA.

            The Imperial Government's long-standing status as a nuclear power and an international player in the region, as well as its recent efforts to open up diplomacy to hitherto disconnected states, show it would be ready to assume an ENAA status. If this Council deem it so, the Imperial Government would be honoured to do so.

            Nicholas Benfield
            Deputy Speaker

            The Empire of Inimicus
            Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
            Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
            Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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            • Kingdom of Reitzmag
              Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by Kingdom of Reitzmag

              As the primary proponent of this amendment, I think it's best we invite these leaders which we deem capable of carrying out the responsibilities to this chamber and allow them to give statements and to also be scrutinized and examined fairly. Apart from this, I request a debate extension for now.

              Dame Yuridiana Yahontov GCC
              Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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              HM King George
              Monarch

              Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
              Prime Minister

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              • Inimicus
                Inimicus EU last edited by

                With the leave of the Speaker, I shall grant a debate extension for a further 48 hours from now, until 11am GMT on 18th February 2022.

                His Imperial Majesty would be more than pleased to address this Council should there be a wish for this to occur.

                Nicholas Benfield
                Deputy Speaker

                The Empire of Inimicus
                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                • C
                  Czech Slavia EU last edited by Czech Slavia

                  After hearing the reasoning provided by Councillor Falk I am not convinced that Icholasen should be removed as a permanent member of the ENAA. There is no indication that the current government of Icholasen would be unstable. Czech Slavia will oppose any attempts to replace Icholasen's permanent membership by any other entity, not because it would oppose those entities gaining permanent membership, but because Icholasen would lose their permanent membership.

                  As I indicated in my earlier comment I will now propose the following amendment to section 2:


                  SECTION II. THE MAKEUP OF THE ENAA

                  1. The ENAA shall consist of five members, four of which will be permanent members and one three of which will be permanent members and two of which will be selected by the European Council every 12 months. This single elected member must be a non-nuclear state and will vacate their seat if they obtain nuclear weapons. All member states will be represented by their Head of Government

                  2. The four permanent members of the ENAA are as follows:
                    a. The Duxburian Union
                    b. Angleter
                    c. Inquista
                    d. Icholasen


                  I believe that this amendment would allow for more flexibility in a case of internal changes in the permanent member states, and their form of government is altered. As Icholasen has demonstrated recently, this can happen and we should anticipate such changes and be ready for them.

                  Finally I would like to say that we do not have a problem with the Empire of Inimicus becoming a permanent member of the ENAA, but only in a case where the ENAA membership is expanded and the Empire of Inimicus, or any other state, won't replace a current permanent member. If this is proposed I am ready to consider supporting such proposition.

                  Václav Kohout
                  Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                  • Istkalen
                    Istkalen EU last edited by

                    I will further extend debate until 21:50 GMT on 22 February 2022.

                    Iras Tilkanas
                    Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                    • Ineland
                      Ineland EU last edited by

                      Even though I am myself, and the government of the member state I represent, favourable to the normalisation of relations with the UNSR and the recognision of their government, I feel that the situation across the strait in Icholasen has been and continues to be too unstable. Therefore I believe that transferring the seat at the ENAA table from the leader of the UDI to the leader of the UNSR would be an unwise move. Thus I feel inclined to support Mr. Tusk's ammendment to replace the seat currently held by the Icholasian Korojaunu with one for the Inmican Emperor.

                      However, in light of the controversy surrounding the replacement of the Icholasian seat, I suggest that we consider this change a temporary one for the time being, with a revision of the situation in Icholasen vis à this legislation in six months time to settle on whether this change should be temporary or permanent.

                      Prince Charles Évere-Dancourt
                      Councillor for the United Principalities of Ineland

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                      King Jean IV Kasper Merckx Dominic Ferry
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                      • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                        Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                        Considering the suggestion of the Honourable Councilor for Ineland, I have thought of the idea of having this 3rd nuclear seat up for election at the same time as the 2nd non-nuclear seat. However, I'd be very welcome to the inputs of my fellow members here on such an idea. Until so, I will not be putting forward such an amendment to my own amendment. This is all I could say for now.

                        Dame Yuridiana Yahontov GCC
                        Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                        HM King George
                        Monarch

                        Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                        Prime Minister

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                        • Istkalen
                          Istkalen EU last edited by

                          I will further extend debate to 12:00 GMT 25 February 2022, to allow Councillors to speak their final thoughts, but will not be giving any further extensions unless there is a significant change in the situation underlying the reasoning behind this proposal.

                          Iras TIlkanas
                          Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                          • Inimicus
                            Inimicus EU last edited by

                            With the permission of the Speaker, I suggest we now move to voting on Amendments.


                            Amendment I, proposed by Cllr Tusk of Spain:

                            SECTION 2:
                            d. The Korojaunu of the United Dominions of Icholasen The Archkonsul of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod The Emperor of Inimicus


                            Amendment II, proposed by Cllr Mizrachi-Roscoe of the United Duchies:

                            SECTION 2:
                            d. The Korojaunu of the United Dominions of Icholasen The Archkonsul of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod The Federation of Fremet


                            Amendment III, proposed by Cllr Lallana of Inquista:

                            SECTION 2:
                            d. The Korojaunu of the United Dominions of Icholasen The Archkonsul of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod The Korojaunu of the Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics


                            Amendment IV, proposed by Speaker Tilkanas of Istkalen:

                            SECTION 2:
                            d. The Korojaunu of the United Dominions of Icholasen or a successor state, or in the case of the vacancy or contention of that role, whether in the United Dominions of Icholasen or in a successor state, the Emperor of the Empire of Inimicus.


                            Amendment V, proposed by Cllr Kohout of Czech Slavia:
                            SECTION 2:

                            1. The ENAA shall consist of five members, four of which will be permanent members and one three of which will be permanent members and two of which will be selected by the European Council every 12 months. This single elected member must be a non-nuclear state and will vacate their seat if they obtain nuclear weapons. All member states will be represented by their Head of Government

                            2. The four permanent members of the ENAA are as follows:
                              a. The Duxburian Union
                              b. Angleter
                              c. Inquista
                              d. Icholasen


                            Please note, colleagues, that all of these amendments are exclusionary. In other words, one cannot vote in favour of multiple Amendments in this case without obfuscating the purpose of the legislation. Voting on Amendments starts NOW and ends 27 FEBRUARY AT 5PM GMT.

                            The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR Amendment I and AGAINST all other Amendments.

                            Nicholas Benfield
                            Deputy Speaker

                            The Empire of Inimicus
                            Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                            Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                            Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                            • Fayrrendel
                              Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                              I vote FOR Amendment IV and AGAINST all other Amendments

                              Tony Odhinazen
                              EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                              • Spain
                                Spain last edited by

                                I vote FOR amendment I and AGAINST all other amendments.

                                Donald Tusk
                                Councillor for Spain

                                The Kingdom of Spain
                                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                • BrumBrum
                                  BrumBrum Commission @Spain last edited by

                                  On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR Amendment II and AGAINST all other amendments

                                  Councillor for United Duchies , James Mizrachi-Roscoe

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                                  • Vayinaod
                                    Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I, Carita Falk, vote as follows:

                                    FOR Amendment I
                                    FOR Amendment IV
                                    AGAINST All other amendments

                                    Carita Falk
                                    Cllr. for the Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                                    Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                    Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                    EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                    • GANIA
                                      GANIA EU last edited by

                                      ON BEHALF OF GANIA WE VOTE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT 1 AND AGAINST THE OTHERS
                                      PEDRO BORDABERRY
                                      GANIA COUNCILOR

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                                      • Duxburian Union
                                        Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I vote FOR Amendment I and against all others.

                                        Wesley Greene
                                        Councillor of the Duxburian Union

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                                        • Inquista
                                          Inquista last edited by

                                          I vote FOR Amendments III and IV, and AGAINST all other amendments.

                                          Bp. Karinn Lallana
                                          Councillor for Inquista

                                          siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                          Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                          Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                          Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                                          • C
                                            Czech Slavia EU last edited by Czech Slavia

                                            On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote FOR Amendments IV and V, and ABSTAIN on all the other amendments

                                            Václav Kohout
                                            Councillor for Czech Slavia

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