Amendment to the European Budget Act 2012
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Well maybe Mr Tusk should research before he says statements like he does not know any nation that runs a defecit. I know strathae is one and thats just one case in the EU. There are times when every nation needs to run a deficit especially during a recession. There needs to be a provision making sure money is spent if it is raised , there is no point in making nations raise money to hold just in case the EU needs it then the budget comes out and its suddenly not needed that is not how any sane organisation budgets you don't make funders reserve an amount just in case. You see how much you have and then base a budget on that spending it the best ways you can to meet the goals or see how much you need and only request that , you don't take a percent of the nations gdp as budget then only maybe spend it. The EU has had massive surpluses for many years and it is an unacceptable situation so either raise money and spend it or take only what you need right away its that simple don't get nations to reserve an amount "just in case" so you have flexibility.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies
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Debate will be extended until 12:00 GMT on 10 March 2022.
Since there has been some mild conclusions, there are a few comments I must make.
This legislation restores contributions to the level that they were at at the last collection; that is, at the time of the last budget. There is thus no actual increase in comparison with what was collected the year prior.
Deputy Speaker Benfield, you make a good point about the Commission budget, but the surplus that you mentioned would be reduced to roughly 19 billion with the passage of this act, lower if Angleter exits the Union, which is highly likely. Most of this will likely be consumed by the EDA due to significant expected increases, and without contributions from Angleter, we would in fact be very likely to end up with a deficit.
In order to prepare for this withdrawal and this expected increase of the budget of the EDA, we should thus return contributions to the level that they were at the collection of the last budget.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
I thank the Speaker for extending the debate and clarifying my objections to this Amendment. If this is indeed the case, and the €60bn surplus is to be reduced to "only" €19bn, perhaps even reduced to a deficit, then the Empire of Inimicus believes this is something we ought to remedy when it needs remedying. Spending billions and billions of Euros on hypotheticals, on "likely" withdrawals from member states, on the thought the budget "might" be increased soon, is not explicable to our electorates.
Nicholas Benfield
Deputy Speaker -
Debate has ended. Voting starts NOW and will continue until 12:00 GMT on 25 March 2022.
On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this amendment.
Bp. Karinn Lallana
Councillor for Inquista -
On behalf of The Kingdom of Gallorum I vote FOR this amendment.
Ursula von der Leyen
Councillor of the Kingdom of Gallorum -
On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR this amendment.
Lionel Morel
EU-Councilor for Leagio -
The Empire of Inimicus votes AGAINST this Amendment.
Nicholas Benfield
Deputy SpeakerThe Empire of Inimicus
Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield -
I would like to raise to the speakers attention that she has missed amendments proposed to this amendment. I am sure it is an innocent mistake but I hope this can be corrected as it would affect the Duchies vote on this.
James Mizrachi-Roscoe , Councillor for United Duchies
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I have indeed made a mistake.
There are two amendments for vote. Voting starts NOW and will continue to 24 March 2022 at 18:00 GMT.
AMENDMENT I
SECTION II. FINANCING THE BUDGET
III. At least 80% of the contributions must be allocated to departments of the EU in any given year with up to 20% allocated to Future Initiative Allotment which will be returned at the end of the year if it is not spent.AMENDMENT II
Each nation is expected to contribute a membership fee ofone-tenth of one percent0.1%0.05%of their Gross Domestic Product towards funding the European Union's Budget.On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen I vote AGAINST both amendments.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR both amendments
James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies
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On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I, Carita Falk, vote AGAINST both amendments.
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I vote AGAINST both amendments.
Donald Tusk
Councillor for Spain -
I vote AGAINST both amendments.
Ursula von der Leyen
Councillor for The Kingdom of Gallorum -
I vote AGAINST both amendments.
P. BORDABERRY
Councillor for GANIA -
On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST both Amendments.
Lionel Morel
EU Coucilor for Leagio -
I vote AGAINST both amendments.
Bp. Karinn Lallana
Councillor for Inquista -
I vote AGAINST both amendments
Václav Kohout
Councillor for Czech Slavia -
With one vote in favor and eight against, Amendment I has failed.
With one vote in favor and eight against, Amendment II has failed.
Final voting begins now, and will continue until 12:00 GMT on 2 April 2022.
On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.
Iras Tilkanas
Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen -
On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR the amendment.
Donald Tusk
Councillor for Spain
The Kingdom of Spain
His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk
