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    European Border Protection Fund Act

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    • BrumBrum
      BrumBrum Commission @Istkalen last edited by

      While a common approach to external borders is indeed a good idea with systems designed to work together on common issues and this act makes sense I would suggest there is a level of fear mongering over borders going on which is highly dangerous. You only have to look at the far right in our countries to see where this retoric leads to racism , hate and discrimination. The reality is cross border crime and smuggling is low and I've yet to see evidence Strathae in particular is a major source of crime and illegal trade and we must not fearmonger over this , lets be honest internal crime is a much bigger threat than crime from the borders in most cases. So while this bill makes sense lets not start with the fearmongering tone you are currently using for a country that as far as we know isn't exactly a hotbed of crime.Our experience at least in the Duchies is if anything they are better at integrating because of their low levels of bigotry and their tolerance and acceptance , we have more trouble with other groups from more socially conservative nations or the bigots of the far right from New Dawn linked groups.

      James Mizrachi-Roscoe , Councillor for United Duchies

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      • C
        Czech Slavia EU last edited by

        Thank you for the support Mrs. Council Speaker. But allow me to ask, with the amendment you propose, how would the finances from the Fund be distributed among the frontier states? I would also like to point out that the amendment you propose should be accompanied with appropriate changes to the Preamble.

        I also thank to Mr. Mizrachi-Roscoe for seeing the need for assistance to frontier regions. And while the European Border Protection Fund is not meant to address issues of border protection with any specific country or entity outside of the European Union, I would like to address your remarks about the Clan Democracy of Strathae in particular. Just from looking at the sheer number of arrests done in the country, we can see that the country has either a problem with crime, which completely stretches out the local police force, which might in turn, coupled with economic reasons, also encourage illegal immigration into the European Union. Strathae is also one of the major producers of drugs such as Marihuana and others, which are illegal in a number of member states, such as the Kindgom of Spain. But again, the Fund is not meant to be centered around the borders of the Union with Strathae in particular, but borders with any state or entity outside the Union. Thank you for understanding.

        Sofie Čikarová
        Councillor for Czech Slavia

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        • BrumBrum
          BrumBrum Commission @Czech Slavia last edited by

          I understand the position of defending the external borders. It is my understand alot of the arrests have been for people breaching protest laws and doxing laws there particularly on the Blairite sides , not for the typical crimes that might be more of a risk such as smuggling , theft and violence. So I think given that and that most Strathaens have been peaceful and law abiding in Strathae and in other countries that it might be dangerous to mention Strathae or indeed any particular country in this context. I know you do not mean it in a bad way but we must remember our quotes and the langauge in this legislation could be used by the far right in many of our countries to incite hate and violence against nationalities and ethnic groups. We must consider this in the legislation we write and our speech in this chamber, our words can have great effects on communities and the level of threat against them even if only in one or two countries.

          James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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          • Istkalen
            Istkalen EU last edited by

            Debate has ended. Voting will begin now and continue until 23:59 GMT on 30 August 2022.

            Iras Tilkanas
            Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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            • Istkalen
              Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

              Voting (on amendments) will be extended until 23:59 GMT on 9 September 2022.

              On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.

              Iras Tilkanas
              Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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              • Inquista
                Inquista last edited by

                I vote FOR the proposed amendment.

                Bp. Karinn Lallana
                Councillor for Inquista

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                Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                • Duxburian Union
                  Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                  On Behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I vote AGAINST the act.

                  Wesley Greene
                  Councillor-General of the Duxburian Union

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                  • Istkalen
                    Istkalen EU last edited by

                    Councillor Greene, are you voting against the amendment or the act?

                    Iras Tilkanas
                    Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                    • Duxburian Union
                      Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                      Oops, sorry for the mixup, didn't realize it was still on amendments. I vote FOR the amendment.

                      Wesley Greene
                      Councillor-General of the Duxburian Union

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                      • Gadalland and Aspern
                        Gadalland and Aspern EU last edited by

                        Gadalland and Aspern votes in favour of this amendment.

                        Ms. Edutitalle Dina
                        European Councillor
                        Six Unions of Gadalland and Aspern

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                        • Spain
                          Spain last edited by

                          I vote FOR the Amendment.

                          Donald Tusk
                          Councillor for Spain

                          The Kingdom of Spain
                          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                          • Leagio
                            Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                            I vote FOR the Amendment.

                            Lionel Morel
                            EU Councilor for Leagio

                            President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                            Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                            EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                            • Aether
                              Aether last edited by

                              I vote FOR the Amendment.

                              Luiza Moraes de Ferreira
                              Councillor for the Aether Federation

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                              • Elthize
                                Elthize ECoJ last edited by

                                Representing The State of Elthize, I vote FOR the amendment.


                                Liam Zachary
                                Councillor for The State of Elthize

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                                • C
                                  Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                                  Dear colleagues, allow me to thank you for your work on this proposal. Hower given the recent changes in the world, the proposed legislation has become unnecessary as the conditions that made establishment of Fund an important issue ensuring security and stability of our entire Union, which was apparent to all except those few that can't see past the end of their noses, are no longer present. In addition to that, with the pasing of the Amendment I., the wording of the proposal would no longer be sensible, as I already pointed out to Ms. Speaker.

                                  Therefore I would like to ask the honorable Speaker to withdraw this proposal. Thank you.

                                  Sofie Čikarová
                                  Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                                  • Istkalen
                                    Istkalen EU last edited by

                                    This proposal has been withdrawn.

                                    Iras Tilkanas
                                    Council Speaker and Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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