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    Amendment to the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen

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    • Nofoaga
      Nofoaga EU last edited by

      Dear colleagues, I am grateful that following the decision by the Nofoagan government to withdraw recognition of this illegal government, there is also movement within the council. Nevertheless, I regret that an amendment like this has to be tabled. Agreements with the UNSR government should be unthinkable for all of us.

      Collègue Bourgaize, when you say that they are engaged in an active treaty involving European Union member states, and have shown that they are willing to retaliate, that is not a justification for supporting a dictatorial regime. You do this through supporting agreements and putting their actions into perspective and even their presence.

      It should be beyond dispute for the Union and all Member States that regimes like this have no place in Europe. This also applies to States that want to join. When a country, like Nofoaga for example, had political struggles and a strong commitment to restoring public and political calm, opening itself up to observers from the Union and other Member States, sanctions are immediately imposed by some States, which have not yet been abandoned . But when an oppressive government rules with an iron fist and violates the principles of the EU and democracy, some are applauding in this room. An outright disgrace.

      I fully support the amendment.

      Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
      EU councilor for Nofoaga

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      • Spain
        Spain last edited by

        Councillors, first of all I have to say I support this amendment, because the United Nicoleizians Soviet Republics, or most known as UNSR, was, are and will be a thread for the European Union. Every minute we have the UNSR as an stablished regime in the European Union, Nicoleizians suffer and we all have to keep an eye on them to avoid entering on conflicts or being destroyed by them. But, it's so hypocrite that a Reitzmic Councillor proposed this amendment. And I'll tell you way.

        I'm making a travel back in time to March 23rd of this year, when we, the European Council, voted for Condemning the Coup in Icholasen. That day, Mr. van Allen abstained upon voting that motion. 3 days later, his Government signed a treaty with the UNSR, in which some military assets like a ship were included, and the Reitzmic king, his Majesty George I, recognised the UNSR, violating the Condemnation we passed on the Council just 3 days ago. And today, here we are now. We needed the UNSR to thread Reitzmag to see your country, Cllr. van Allen, finally waking up and realising about the thread of the UNSR to every single EU nation. 4 months and 8 days later.

        Mr. Firoux did the amendment better, as it avoided Reitzmag to get part of nuclear armament from Icholasen as Cllr. Falk say. We all know there are hidden interests here, and I think Cllr. Falk has perfectly revealed them. I always say that someone who's not clear enough with a matter can turn to an exact position if there are hidden interests around. I think that happened to you, Cllr. van Allen.

        Moving on now to Eastern Haane. At the moment, the acting Korojaunu is Ms. Samantha Terrace. And also, you can't recongnise a country by a Coup d'Etat. At the moment, mostly all agreements are suspended with the UNSR, mostly no one trades with them. And if they do, it's because they have signed an illegal treaty with them to replace a military ship. I think we really need to solve this situation Cllr. Bourgaize, but we will need the cooperation of everyone of us to get the Nicoleizian back to their normal lives, and not to hid in the mountains like if they were fugitives. Nicoleizians deserve a better government than this one, chosen by them in a referendum once we get rid of the UNSR. With a Communist regime, there will never be free elections.

        Donald D. Tusk
        Councillor for Spain

        The Kingdom of Spain
        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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        • Leagio
          Leagio ECoJ last edited by

          I must agree with Councilor Tusk on his statement but i will take it another step further, Councilor Bourgaize. A legitimate government for the Nicoleizians would not attempt to smuggle nuclear material from Leagio in order to fuel its illegal nuclear arsenal. If it was a legitimate government, then it would have come to the negotiating table to resolve the issues that the EU community has with it. It would understand that the EU has a problem with how it runs and how it treats its own people, where it would look to improve itself. Furthermore, this is back to the recent Romain cargoship incident, the UNSR has not been allowed by the appropriate bodies within the EU to have a nuclear arsenal.

          Now, on to the amendments that have been proposed for this legislation, i find myself in favor of the amendments presented by the Council Speaker. Now, i understand that some would consider a full embargo harsh to the situation. But the issue is that for the Commonwealth in particular, the fact that the UNSR has its own merchant ships not own flying under a different flag but has them try to illegally obtain nuclear material. We cannot trade with a government that has shown already that it already has no care on the rules of that are of another sovereign nation but chooses to ignore them and build weapons of mass destruction in order to achieve its own aggressive goals. In addition, i must again agree on the fact of communist regimes, there are no free elections. The only elections that exist are communist elections with any other idealogy not have a voice in them. A conservative party or a liberal party has no rights in a communist regime to be elected for only communist factions are allowed a vote.

          Francis Plessis
          EU Councilor for Leagio

          President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
          Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
          EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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          • ?
            A Former User last edited by

            I did not imply or say that the UNSR was a legitimate government, Councillor Plessis. It is entirely undemocratic. I simply stated that we would have to prepare ourselves for the contingency that the UNSR is overthrown and replaced by a new, legitimate and democratic government with a popular basis that is not the United Dominions of Icholasen. For example, let us say that the Nicoleizians replace the UNSR with a 'Republic of Icholasen.' They hold free elections; and what then? Are they recognized or not?

            Regarding my second amendment - Amendment IV - I concede to you, my colleagues. I thus ask that it be withdrawn.

            However, I would like to address what you all are saying about 'Communist regime.' Eastern Haane is a communist regime, in that we are actively attempting to abolish all remnants of capitalism in our country and have made socialism irrevocable. Yet we are staunch supporters of political freedom, so much so that there is an ongoing rebellion against a government that curtailed freedoms in what is possibly an attempt to calm the current political maelstrom. We have held free elections and referendums; in fact, some of our principles of government, including the binding of representatives to the mandate of their constituencies, make us even more democratic in certain ways than your governments. Please stop making these blanket claims. They discredit a great many people who are actively working to ensure that democracy remains stable in Europe.

            Martin Bourgaize
            Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane*

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            • Nofoaga
              Nofoaga EU last edited by Nofoaga

              Councilor Bourgaize, stating that the government of Eastern Haane is actively attempting to abolish all remnants of capitalism and have made socialism irrevocable, is by definition, excluding freedom and democracy. The only way to obtain your Socialist paradise is by the use of a certain form of oppression.

              Countries like yours and the UNSR have no place here.

              Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
              EU councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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              • ?
                A Former User last edited by

                Councillor Dubecq, again, I must repeat that the UNSR is entirely a dictatorship, and should not receive any of our support. However, I do not understand how oppression is needed to obtain a 'Socialist paradise,' especially in a country founded by deported revolutionaries.

                I fully support this condemnation, save for my previous exceptions.

                Martin Bourgaize
                Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane

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                • Nofoaga
                  Nofoaga EU last edited by

                  Mr. Bourgaize, Nofoaga is founded by French Empirialists. That doesn't mean all Nofoagans support a French state. I hope you see how dumb and senseless your argument is.

                  Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                  EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                  • Inquista
                    Inquista last edited by Inquista

                    Alright Councillors, let us please remain civil. Councillor Dubecq, please refrain from calling anyone's comments dumb. Councillor Bourgaize is an esteemed member of this Council, who has made many wise and meaningful contributions to our chmaber. Eastern Haane will always have a place here. We are all equal members of the European Union.

                    I will extend the debate period for a further 48 hours, until 04:00 GMT on August 5th, 2020.

                    Edward Firoux
                    Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                    siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                    Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                    Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                    Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                    • Nofoaga
                      Nofoaga EU last edited by

                      I apologize for my use of language, Mr. Speaker.

                      Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                      EU councilor for the the Republic of Nofoaga

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                      • Vayinaod
                        Vayinaod EU last edited by

                        Amendment I
                        Section 1

                        1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen.
                        2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen.
                        3. Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
                        4. The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until their the full restoration to of all their original territories.

                        Amendment II
                        Section 2

                        1. Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubics any illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned. until such time as and Only negotiations and agreements with the legitimate government as * of Icholasen is restored permitted.
                        2. The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen. until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation.
                        3. All luxury goods and services traded between the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen and European Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed. and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.

                        These are my two amendments. I am for amending the original condemnation resolution, however, I can not support actions that will only bolster communist propaganda, hurt regular Nicholezian citizens while it leaves those at the top truly unharmed. A resolution that is amended to be a full embargo will be an automatic no from me.

                        Carita Falk
                        Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                        Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                        Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                        EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                        • Inquista
                          Inquista last edited by Inquista

                          The debate period has now come to an end. Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 06:30 GMT on August 8th, 2020.

                          There are 5 amendments to be voted upon. Be wary when voting upon them, as Amendments I, III and IV all clash with one another, and Amendments II and V clash with one another. The amendments are as follows:

                          Amendment I - Authored by Cllr. Firoux
                          Section 1

                          1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen.
                          2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen.
                          3. Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
                          4. The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until their the full restoration to of all their original territories.

                          Amendment II - Authored by Cllr. Firoux
                          Section 2

                          1. Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubics any illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned. until such time as and Only negotiations and agreements with the legitimate government as * of Icholasen is restored permitted.
                          2. The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen. until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation.
                          3. All luxury goods and services traded between the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen and European Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed. and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.

                          Amendment III - Authored by Cllr. Bourgaize
                          Section 1

                          1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford, or their successors; or a legitimate and democratic successor state with a popular basis.
                          2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen, or a legitimate and democratic successor state with a popular basis.

                          Amendment IV - Authored by Cllr. Falk
                          Section 1

                          1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen.
                          2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen.
                          3. Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
                          4. The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until their the full restoration to of all their original territories.

                          Amendment V - Authored by Cllr. Falk
                          Section 2

                          1. Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubics any illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned. until such time as and Only negotiations and agreements with the legitimate government as * of Icholasen is restored permitted.
                          2. The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen. until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation.
                          3. All luxury goods and services traded between the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen and European Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed. and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.

                          I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.

                          Edward Firoux
                          Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                          siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                          Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                          Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                          Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                            I vote FOR Amendments I and II and AGAINST Amendments III, IV, and V.

                            Friedrich van Allen
                            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                            HM King George
                            Monarch

                            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                            Prime Minister

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                            • Nofoaga
                              Nofoaga EU last edited by

                              I vote FOR all amendments.

                              Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                              EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                              • Icholasen
                                Icholasen EU last edited by

                                I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.

                                Duchess Poppy Carlton-Romanov
                                Councillor for the United Dominions of Icholasen

                                The Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics
                                Chairman of the Communist Party: Michul Jirluchuz ☭
                                EU Councillor: Poppy Carlton-Romanov (EPA)
                                Korojaunu in Exile: Eilidh Whiteford ☆
                                Monarch in Exile: Queen Anastasia II ♚

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                                • Leagio
                                  Leagio ECoJ last edited by Leagio

                                  I vote FOR Amendments III and V. I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.

                                  Francis Plessis
                                  EU Councilor for Leagio

                                  President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                  Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                  EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                  • Spain
                                    Spain last edited by

                                    I vote FOR amendments I, IV and V and AGAINST amendments II and III.

                                    Donald D. Tusk
                                    Councillor for Spain

                                    The Kingdom of Spain
                                    His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                    President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                    Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                    • Fremet
                                      Fremet EU last edited by

                                      I vote FOR amendments I and II, and AGAINST amendments III, IV, and V.

                                      Charles Michel
                                      Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                                      Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                      EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                      #FortressFremet

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                                      • Fayrrendel
                                        Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                                        I ABSTAIN from voting on all amendments.

                                        Helhuan Ziharuthstuktur
                                        EU Councillor, Ruthund

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                                        • P
                                          Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                                          I vote FOR Amendments III and V,

                                          I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.

                                          Cllr Tupac Shakur

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                                          • C
                                            Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                                            I vote AGAINST all amendments.

                                            Václav Kohout
                                            Councillor for the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia

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