Amendment to the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen
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I must agree with Councilor Tusk on his statement but i will take it another step further, Councilor Bourgaize. A legitimate government for the Nicoleizians would not attempt to smuggle nuclear material from Leagio in order to fuel its illegal nuclear arsenal. If it was a legitimate government, then it would have come to the negotiating table to resolve the issues that the EU community has with it. It would understand that the EU has a problem with how it runs and how it treats its own people, where it would look to improve itself. Furthermore, this is back to the recent Romain cargoship incident, the UNSR has not been allowed by the appropriate bodies within the EU to have a nuclear arsenal.
Now, on to the amendments that have been proposed for this legislation, i find myself in favor of the amendments presented by the Council Speaker. Now, i understand that some would consider a full embargo harsh to the situation. But the issue is that for the Commonwealth in particular, the fact that the UNSR has its own merchant ships not own flying under a different flag but has them try to illegally obtain nuclear material. We cannot trade with a government that has shown already that it already has no care on the rules of that are of another sovereign nation but chooses to ignore them and build weapons of mass destruction in order to achieve its own aggressive goals. In addition, i must again agree on the fact of communist regimes, there are no free elections. The only elections that exist are communist elections with any other idealogy not have a voice in them. A conservative party or a liberal party has no rights in a communist regime to be elected for only communist factions are allowed a vote.
Francis Plessis
EU Councilor for Leagio -
I did not imply or say that the UNSR was a legitimate government, Councillor Plessis. It is entirely undemocratic. I simply stated that we would have to prepare ourselves for the contingency that the UNSR is overthrown and replaced by a new, legitimate and democratic government with a popular basis that is not the United Dominions of Icholasen. For example, let us say that the Nicoleizians replace the UNSR with a 'Republic of Icholasen.' They hold free elections; and what then? Are they recognized or not?
Regarding my second amendment - Amendment IV - I concede to you, my colleagues. I thus ask that it be withdrawn.
However, I would like to address what you all are saying about 'Communist regime.' Eastern Haane is a communist regime, in that we are actively attempting to abolish all remnants of capitalism in our country and have made socialism irrevocable. Yet we are staunch supporters of political freedom, so much so that there is an ongoing rebellion against a government that curtailed freedoms in what is possibly an attempt to calm the current political maelstrom. We have held free elections and referendums; in fact, some of our principles of government, including the binding of representatives to the mandate of their constituencies, make us even more democratic in certain ways than your governments. Please stop making these blanket claims. They discredit a great many people who are actively working to ensure that democracy remains stable in Europe.
Martin Bourgaize
Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane* -
Councilor Bourgaize, stating that the government of Eastern Haane is actively attempting to abolish all remnants of capitalism and have made socialism irrevocable, is by definition, excluding freedom and democracy. The only way to obtain your Socialist paradise is by the use of a certain form of oppression.
Countries like yours and the UNSR have no place here.
Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
EU councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga -
Councillor Dubecq, again, I must repeat that the UNSR is entirely a dictatorship, and should not receive any of our support. However, I do not understand how oppression is needed to obtain a 'Socialist paradise,' especially in a country founded by deported revolutionaries.
I fully support this condemnation, save for my previous exceptions.
Martin Bourgaize
Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane -
Mr. Bourgaize, Nofoaga is founded by French Empirialists. That doesn't mean all Nofoagans support a French state. I hope you see how dumb and senseless your argument is.
Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga -
Alright Councillors, let us please remain civil. Councillor Dubecq, please refrain from calling anyone's comments dumb. Councillor Bourgaize is an esteemed member of this Council, who has made many wise and meaningful contributions to our chmaber. Eastern Haane will always have a place here. We are all equal members of the European Union.
I will extend the debate period for a further 48 hours, until 04:00 GMT on August 5th, 2020.
Edward Firoux
Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista -
I apologize for my use of language, Mr. Speaker.
Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
EU councilor for the the Republic of Nofoaga -
Amendment I
Section 1- The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and
Prime MinisterKorojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen. - The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support
theirany illegitimate governmentknown as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity.other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen. - Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
- The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until
theirthe full restorationtoof all their original territories.
Amendment II
Section 2- Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and
Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubicsany illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned.until such time as andOnly negotiations and agreements with the legitimate governmentas *of Icholasen isrestoredpermitted. - The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked
from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen.until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation. - All luxury goods and services traded between
the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen andEuropean Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed.and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.
These are my two amendments. I am for amending the original condemnation resolution, however, I can not support actions that will only bolster communist propaganda, hurt regular Nicholezian citizens while it leaves those at the top truly unharmed. A resolution that is amended to be a full embargo will be an automatic no from me.
Carita Falk
Archrepublic of Vayinaod - The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and
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The debate period has now come to an end. Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 06:30 GMT on August 8th, 2020.
There are 5 amendments to be voted upon. Be wary when voting upon them, as Amendments I, III and IV all clash with one another, and Amendments II and V clash with one another. The amendments are as follows:
Amendment I - Authored by Cllr. Firoux
Section 1- The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and
Prime MinisterKorojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen. - The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support
theirany illegitimate governmentknown as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity.other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen. - Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
- The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until
theirthe full restorationtoof all their original territories.
Amendment II - Authored by Cllr. Firoux
Section 2- Effectively immediately, any and all
military tradeagreements between EU member states andIcholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubicsany illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned.until such time as andOnly negotiations and agreements with the legitimate governmentas *of Icholasen isrestoredpermitted. - The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked
from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen.until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation. - All
luxurygoods and services traded betweenthe United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen andEuropean Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed.andOnly trade with therestoredUnited Dominions of Icholasen is allowedonce restored until further notice.
Amendment III - Authored by Cllr. Bourgaize
Section 1- The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and
Prime MinisterKorojaunu Eilidh Whiteford, or their successors; or a legitimate and democratic successor state with a popular basis. - The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support
theirany illegitimate governmentknown as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity.other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen, or a legitimate and democratic successor state with a popular basis.
Amendment IV - Authored by Cllr. Falk
Section 1- The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and
Prime MinisterKorojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen. - The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support
theirany illegitimate governmentknown as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity.other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen. - Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
- The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until
theirthe full restorationtoof all their original territories.
Amendment V - Authored by Cllr. Falk
Section 2- Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and
Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubicsany illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned.until such time as andOnly negotiations and agreements with the legitimate governmentas *of Icholasen isrestoredpermitted. - The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked
from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen.until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation. - All luxury goods and services traded between
the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen andEuropean Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed.and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.
I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.
Edward Firoux
Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista - The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and
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I vote FOR Amendments I and II and AGAINST Amendments III, IV, and V.
Friedrich van Allen
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag -
I vote FOR all amendments.
Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga -
I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.
Duchess Poppy Carlton-Romanov
Councillor for the United Dominions of Icholasen -
I vote FOR Amendments III and V. I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.
Francis Plessis
EU Councilor for Leagio -
I vote FOR amendments I, IV and V and AGAINST amendments II and III.
Donald D. Tusk
Councillor for Spain -
I vote FOR amendments I and II, and AGAINST amendments III, IV, and V.
Charles Michel
Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet -
I ABSTAIN from voting on all amendments.
Helhuan Ziharuthstuktur
EU Councillor, Ruthund -
I vote FOR Amendments III and V,
I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.
Cllr Tupac Shakur
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I vote AGAINST all amendments.
Václav Kohout
Councillor for the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia -
I vote FOR Amendments III and V,
I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.
Cllr Carita Falk
Archrepublic of Vayinaod -
I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.
Dame Emma Granger
Councillor for Montebourg