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    Amendment to the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen

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    • Leagio
      Leagio ECoJ last edited by

      I must agree with Councilor Tusk on his statement but i will take it another step further, Councilor Bourgaize. A legitimate government for the Nicoleizians would not attempt to smuggle nuclear material from Leagio in order to fuel its illegal nuclear arsenal. If it was a legitimate government, then it would have come to the negotiating table to resolve the issues that the EU community has with it. It would understand that the EU has a problem with how it runs and how it treats its own people, where it would look to improve itself. Furthermore, this is back to the recent Romain cargoship incident, the UNSR has not been allowed by the appropriate bodies within the EU to have a nuclear arsenal.

      Now, on to the amendments that have been proposed for this legislation, i find myself in favor of the amendments presented by the Council Speaker. Now, i understand that some would consider a full embargo harsh to the situation. But the issue is that for the Commonwealth in particular, the fact that the UNSR has its own merchant ships not own flying under a different flag but has them try to illegally obtain nuclear material. We cannot trade with a government that has shown already that it already has no care on the rules of that are of another sovereign nation but chooses to ignore them and build weapons of mass destruction in order to achieve its own aggressive goals. In addition, i must again agree on the fact of communist regimes, there are no free elections. The only elections that exist are communist elections with any other idealogy not have a voice in them. A conservative party or a liberal party has no rights in a communist regime to be elected for only communist factions are allowed a vote.

      Francis Plessis
      EU Councilor for Leagio

      President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
      Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
      EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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      • ?
        A Former User last edited by

        I did not imply or say that the UNSR was a legitimate government, Councillor Plessis. It is entirely undemocratic. I simply stated that we would have to prepare ourselves for the contingency that the UNSR is overthrown and replaced by a new, legitimate and democratic government with a popular basis that is not the United Dominions of Icholasen. For example, let us say that the Nicoleizians replace the UNSR with a 'Republic of Icholasen.' They hold free elections; and what then? Are they recognized or not?

        Regarding my second amendment - Amendment IV - I concede to you, my colleagues. I thus ask that it be withdrawn.

        However, I would like to address what you all are saying about 'Communist regime.' Eastern Haane is a communist regime, in that we are actively attempting to abolish all remnants of capitalism in our country and have made socialism irrevocable. Yet we are staunch supporters of political freedom, so much so that there is an ongoing rebellion against a government that curtailed freedoms in what is possibly an attempt to calm the current political maelstrom. We have held free elections and referendums; in fact, some of our principles of government, including the binding of representatives to the mandate of their constituencies, make us even more democratic in certain ways than your governments. Please stop making these blanket claims. They discredit a great many people who are actively working to ensure that democracy remains stable in Europe.

        Martin Bourgaize
        Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane*

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        • Nofoaga
          Nofoaga EU last edited by Nofoaga

          Councilor Bourgaize, stating that the government of Eastern Haane is actively attempting to abolish all remnants of capitalism and have made socialism irrevocable, is by definition, excluding freedom and democracy. The only way to obtain your Socialist paradise is by the use of a certain form of oppression.

          Countries like yours and the UNSR have no place here.

          Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
          EU councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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          • ?
            A Former User last edited by

            Councillor Dubecq, again, I must repeat that the UNSR is entirely a dictatorship, and should not receive any of our support. However, I do not understand how oppression is needed to obtain a 'Socialist paradise,' especially in a country founded by deported revolutionaries.

            I fully support this condemnation, save for my previous exceptions.

            Martin Bourgaize
            Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane

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            • Nofoaga
              Nofoaga EU last edited by

              Mr. Bourgaize, Nofoaga is founded by French Empirialists. That doesn't mean all Nofoagans support a French state. I hope you see how dumb and senseless your argument is.

              Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
              EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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              • Inquista
                Inquista last edited by Inquista

                Alright Councillors, let us please remain civil. Councillor Dubecq, please refrain from calling anyone's comments dumb. Councillor Bourgaize is an esteemed member of this Council, who has made many wise and meaningful contributions to our chmaber. Eastern Haane will always have a place here. We are all equal members of the European Union.

                I will extend the debate period for a further 48 hours, until 04:00 GMT on August 5th, 2020.

                Edward Firoux
                Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                • Nofoaga
                  Nofoaga EU last edited by

                  I apologize for my use of language, Mr. Speaker.

                  Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                  EU councilor for the the Republic of Nofoaga

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                  • Vayinaod
                    Vayinaod EU last edited by

                    Amendment I
                    Section 1

                    1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen.
                    2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen.
                    3. Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
                    4. The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until their the full restoration to of all their original territories.

                    Amendment II
                    Section 2

                    1. Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubics any illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned. until such time as and Only negotiations and agreements with the legitimate government as * of Icholasen is restored permitted.
                    2. The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen. until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation.
                    3. All luxury goods and services traded between the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen and European Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed. and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.

                    These are my two amendments. I am for amending the original condemnation resolution, however, I can not support actions that will only bolster communist propaganda, hurt regular Nicholezian citizens while it leaves those at the top truly unharmed. A resolution that is amended to be a full embargo will be an automatic no from me.

                    Carita Falk
                    Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                    Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                    Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                    EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                    • Inquista
                      Inquista last edited by Inquista

                      The debate period has now come to an end. Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 06:30 GMT on August 8th, 2020.

                      There are 5 amendments to be voted upon. Be wary when voting upon them, as Amendments I, III and IV all clash with one another, and Amendments II and V clash with one another. The amendments are as follows:

                      Amendment I - Authored by Cllr. Firoux
                      Section 1

                      1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen.
                      2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen.
                      3. Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
                      4. The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until their the full restoration to of all their original territories.

                      Amendment II - Authored by Cllr. Firoux
                      Section 2

                      1. Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubics any illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned. until such time as and Only negotiations and agreements with the legitimate government as * of Icholasen is restored permitted.
                      2. The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen. until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation.
                      3. All luxury goods and services traded between the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen and European Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed. and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.

                      Amendment III - Authored by Cllr. Bourgaize
                      Section 1

                      1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford, or their successors; or a legitimate and democratic successor state with a popular basis.
                      2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen, or a legitimate and democratic successor state with a popular basis.

                      Amendment IV - Authored by Cllr. Falk
                      Section 1

                      1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen.
                      2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen.
                      3. Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
                      4. The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until their the full restoration to of all their original territories.

                      Amendment V - Authored by Cllr. Falk
                      Section 2

                      1. Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubics any illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned. until such time as and Only negotiations and agreements with the legitimate government as * of Icholasen is restored permitted.
                      2. The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen. until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation.
                      3. All luxury goods and services traded between the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen and European Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed. and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.

                      I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.

                      Edward Firoux
                      Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                      siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                      Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                      Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                      Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                      • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                        Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                        I vote FOR Amendments I and II and AGAINST Amendments III, IV, and V.

                        Friedrich van Allen
                        Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                        HM King George
                        Monarch

                        Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                        Prime Minister

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                        • Nofoaga
                          Nofoaga EU last edited by

                          I vote FOR all amendments.

                          Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                          EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                          • Icholasen
                            Icholasen EU last edited by

                            I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.

                            Duchess Poppy Carlton-Romanov
                            Councillor for the United Dominions of Icholasen

                            The Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics
                            Chairman of the Communist Party: Michul Jirluchuz ☭
                            EU Councillor: Poppy Carlton-Romanov (EPA)
                            Korojaunu in Exile: Eilidh Whiteford ☆
                            Monarch in Exile: Queen Anastasia II ♚

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                            • Leagio
                              Leagio ECoJ last edited by Leagio

                              I vote FOR Amendments III and V. I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.

                              Francis Plessis
                              EU Councilor for Leagio

                              President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                              Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                              EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                              • Spain
                                Spain last edited by

                                I vote FOR amendments I, IV and V and AGAINST amendments II and III.

                                Donald D. Tusk
                                Councillor for Spain

                                The Kingdom of Spain
                                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                • Fremet
                                  Fremet EU last edited by

                                  I vote FOR amendments I and II, and AGAINST amendments III, IV, and V.

                                  Charles Michel
                                  Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                                  Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                  EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                  #FortressFremet

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                                  • Fayrrendel
                                    Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                                    I ABSTAIN from voting on all amendments.

                                    Helhuan Ziharuthstuktur
                                    EU Councillor, Ruthund

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                                    • P
                                      Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                                      I vote FOR Amendments III and V,

                                      I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.

                                      Cllr Tupac Shakur

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                                      • C
                                        Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                                        I vote AGAINST all amendments.

                                        Václav Kohout
                                        Councillor for the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia

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                                        • Vayinaod
                                          Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                          I vote FOR Amendments III and V,

                                          I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.

                                          Cllr Carita Falk
                                          Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                                          Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                          Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                          EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                          • M
                                            Montenbourg EU last edited by

                                            I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.

                                            Dame Emma Granger
                                            Councillor for Montebourg

                                            🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                                            👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                                            🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                                            🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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