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    Repeal of the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen

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    • Fremet
      Fremet EU last edited by

      Councilor Arkalis, you are heard.

      Your intention for repeal motion and not an overall discussion on the matter was not made abundantly clear in your opening statement.

      Nevertheless, I will open this council debate NOW on the motion presented to Repeal the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen Act (2020), to conclude and proceed to a vote on 16 April 2021 at 12h00 GMT.

      Charles Michel
      Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

      Statsminister Erna Solberg
      EU Cllr Charles Michel
      #FortressFremet

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      • Fayrrendel
        Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

        I, in principle, support this motion proposed by the Councilor on the grounds that the European Council has not established a clear path towards the reintegration of the UNSR. It is becoming increasingly non-sensical to see the government in exile as an actual government and the willingness for member-states pretending the UNSR has not established legitimacy on the island is becoming silly. The UNSR has, from what I can tell, has domestically stabilized and the prospects for any other regime to arise is miniscule at best for the time being. The EU's hopes for establishing the old Regime in Icholasen has now becoming a fairy tale, unless they are willing to engage in a war of regime change.

        I understand that the European Council has moral disgust towards regime changes by military coup d'etats, which is an understandable impulse. I personally am disgusted by it too, Councilors. Furthermore I would understand if many nations in Europe would take to sanctioning the UNSR. However, the UNSR has demonstrated while their democracy is surely flawed and many problems exist within it, the current regime has proved at least some willingness to make the country participatory in its decision-making. While I rarely hear this argument being made vocally, the notion that the UNSR is undemocratic I feel is an unfair standard when their quality of democracy is comparable to other member states in the EU. To me, it comes off as a bad-faith criticism from this chamber when history has shown us that isolating a state from the rest of the international community often encourages authoritarianism in the isolated country while discrediting any moderating forces.

        Councilors, instead of treating the UNSR as a boogyman that is to be feared by us, let's replace this condemnation with a roadmap to reintegrate the UNSR-- a plan to peacefully reintegrate them into the European community, instead of the ineffective jousting that we see from the likes of Premier Commissioner Cocx and certain other members of this chamber. It is important that we validate the moderate voices, the reformists, and the cool heads of the UNSR and the only way we can do this is offering a way out for the UNSR so they do not feel they have to be besieged. Our current policy towards the UNSR fails to do this. What I propose is not necessarily to repeal the condemnation of the UNSR, but to replace it with a more pragmatic and diplomatic framework on how the European Union should conduct policy towards the UNSR and as I said before, give the UNSR a chance to open up to the European Community. While I cannot guarantee the success of this project, none of what we are doing currently is making progress towards making a better Icholasen

        And Councilors, I sincerely hope I do not have to explain why it would be a ehhh... less than fortunate idea to attempt a regime change war in the UNSR. Think well on this alternative.

        Tony Odhinazen
        EU Councilor, Ruthund

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        • M
          Montenbourg EU last edited by

          The architects of fear have converted a wholesome law against conspiracy into an instrument for making association a crime. Pretending to fear government they have asked government to outlaw private protest. They glorify "togetherness" when it is theirs, and call it conspiracy when it is that of others.

          Communism as I see it has no place in the European Union, and Europeans will not stand for its teachings. Calling for a Repeal is nonesense.

          Emma Granger
          Councillor for Montenbourg

          🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
          👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
          🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
          🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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          • Fremet
            Fremet EU last edited by

            To allow members otherwise engaged to weigh in, I'm extending this debate through the weekend until 18 April 2021 at 12h00 GMT.

            Charles Michel
            Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

            Statsminister Erna Solberg
            EU Cllr Charles Michel
            #FortressFremet

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            • Fremet
              Fremet EU last edited by

              Debate on this has ended. We will now move on to final voting.

              Voting on the Repeal of the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen begins NOW and ends 23 April 2021 at 12h00 GMT.


              On behalf of the Republic of Fremet, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

              Charles Michel
              Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

              Statsminister Erna Solberg
              EU Cllr Charles Michel
              #FortressFremet

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              • Inimicus
                Inimicus EU last edited by

                Naturally, the Empire of Inimicus votes AGAINST this Repeal.

                The Empire of Inimicus
                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                • M
                  Montenbourg EU last edited by

                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

                  Emma Granger
                  Councilor for Montenbourg

                  🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                  👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                  🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                  🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                  • Nofoaga
                    Nofoaga EU last edited by

                    On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST this Repeal.

                    Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                    EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                    • Spain
                      Spain last edited by

                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

                      Donald Tusk
                      Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                      The Kingdom of Spain
                      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                      • BrumBrum
                        BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                        On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST this motion
                        James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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                        • Leagio
                          Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                          On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

                          Francis Plessis
                          EU Councilor for Leagio

                          President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                          Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                          EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                          • C
                            Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote FOR this repeal.

                            Václav Kohout
                            Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                            • Fremet
                              Fremet EU last edited by

                              Voting has ended.

                              With 1 vote FOR, 7 votes AGAINST, and no Abstentions, the Repeal of the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen has FAILED.

                              Charles Michel
                              Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                              Statsminister Erna Solberg
                              EU Cllr Charles Michel
                              #FortressFremet

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