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    Amendment to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Article V of the Constitution

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    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by Kingdom of Reitzmag

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      I fully support this proposal from Coun. Bourgaize. I truly believe that human rights must be a priority of our legislation and that I believe that this motion would further protect the interests of the people.

      Now with Coun. Shakur, I strongly disagree with your proposals. First of all, you want to strip our European peoples the best example of exercising democratic process which takes the form of elections. Tell me Coun. Shakur, are you a fascist? Are you afraid of not being elected as European councilor for your country? |Then you also want to restrict people from buying too much property and restrict state education funding for non-citizens. Coun. Shakur, I want to tell you that with the latest statistics. The literacy rate of many European member-states are decreasing and this would affect heavily the economic growth of the member-states and Europe as one. Employment rates would fall if you do that Coun. Shakur.

      Think of your children and their future. We have to protect them and not remove them the rights to these benefits.

      Lastly, I'd like to say these words;

      The youth are the hope of the motherland!
      

      That's all, thank you very much.

      Friedrich van Allen
      Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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      HM King George
      Monarch

      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
      Prime Minister

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        Pravoslaviya EU last edited by Pravoslaviya

        Van Halen, you cannot make up fake stats on the spot. Our literacy rate in Pravoslaviya is fine. If our region is becoming illiterate, it's the first I've heard of it. Maybe it's just Reitzmag?

        And don't call me a fascist, Van Halen. You are the single biggest hypocrite. If I was worried about being elected to the Council, then I'd call an election with a day's notice and no debates, and run the election myself to make super-sure I didn't lose. Oh, and I wouldn't decide the winner based on popular vote. Not only that, but I wouldn't release the popular vote results. Take three days to count the votes as well, just to be sure. That'd be a really fascist way of going about things.

        You shouldn't even be here, Van Halen. Maybe Nigel Farage should be in your place?

        Reitzmag has this crazy election system and yet its councillor is calling me a fascist for saying that Pravoslaviyan elections should be for Pravoslaviyan citizens. Truth is, Van Halen doesn't believe in citizenship and he doesn't believe in nations. He only wants this amendment because it would further his goal of merging all our countries into one, presumably one where he's in charge of the elections, and we have no time to campaign or debate, but he gets loads of time to count the votes. I wonder who'd win?

        If we don't want a Europe led and dominated by Reitzmag, then we have to vote against this amendment.

        Cllr Tupac Shakur

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          A Former User last edited by

          Cllr. Shakur, the UDoHR already restricts voting rights to citizens - it states that people only have the right to take part in the governance of their own countries. As such, I do not know, nor do I understand, how any of this would lead to a 'Europe led and dominated by Reitzmag.'

          That takes me to my second point.

          Cllr. Shakur, never has the Constitution been interpreted in the way that you claim it will be interpreted if this amendment passes. If it were so, then technically it would already be illegal to restrict voting and property to just citizens. However, it has been interpreted in a similar way to what I have previously stated; to defend the murders of many.

          What is more important, outlandish hypotheticals or reality?

          That is not to say that there should be further reform to ensure a more rational interpretation of the UDoHR in the future; however, that is out of the purview of this proposed amendment.

          Martin Bourgaize
          Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane

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          • Inquista
            Inquista last edited by Inquista

            I second what Councillor Bourgaize has had to say, and I would like to know which specific sections of the UDoHR does Councillor Shakur have reservations about extending to all people within the boundaries of the EU?

            I've done a second scan through the UDoHR and I personally see no reasons to extend these to every individual located in the EU's boundaries. There is only one section which I could imagine as being perhaps somewhat questionable, which is Section XIII, Freedom of Movement. Section XIII says every person has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state. However, just having the right to the freedom of movement doesn't mean that people can move totally freely within the EU, they simply have a right to legally cross borders, if and where they can, with the legal documentation such visas, if necessary, for instance. This is already something that is afforded to every single European, so I'm not sure why it shouldn't be a right for every person located within the EU's jurisdiction.

            I would just like some more specific clarity on your objections, Councillor Shakur.

            Edward Firoux
            Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

            siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
            Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
            Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
            Councillor Karinn Lallana

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            • ?
              A Former User last edited by

              May we begin counting the votes?

              Martin Bourgaize
              Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane

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              • Inquista
                Inquista last edited by Inquista

                Yes, apologies. Final voting on this constitutional amendment begins NOW and will last until 20:15 GMT on July 3rd, 2020.

                On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this constitutional amendment.

                Edward Firoux
                Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                • Nofoaga
                  Nofoaga EU last edited by

                  On behalf of the Republic Nofoaga I vote FOR this ammendment.

                  Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                  EU Councilor for Nofoaga

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                  • Fayrrendel
                    Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

                    The Sublime Ottoman State votes FOR this admendment.

                    Mr. Su Tefvik
                    European Councillor, Court of Osman

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                    • ?
                      A Former User last edited by

                      On behalf of the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane, I vote FOR this amendment.

                      Martin Bourgaize
                      Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane

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                      • Fremet
                        Fremet EU last edited by

                        On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I vote FOR this amendment to the UDoHR.

                        Charles Michel
                        Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                        Statsminister Erna Solberg
                        EU Cllr Charles Michel
                        #FortressFremet

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                        • Icholasen
                          Icholasen EU last edited by Icholasen

                          On behalf of the United Dominions of Icholasen, I vote FOR this amendment.


                          • Councillor (Duchess) Poppy Carlton-Romanov

                          The Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics
                          Chairman of the Communist Party: Michul Jirluchuz ☭
                          EU Councillor: Poppy Carlton-Romanov (EPA)
                          Korojaunu in Exile: Eilidh Whiteford ☆
                          Monarch in Exile: Queen Anastasia II ♚

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                          • Vayinaod
                            Vayinaod EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote FOR this amendment.

                            Carita Falk
                            Cllr. for the Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                            Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                            Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                            EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                              Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                              On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote FOR this amendment .

                              Václav Kohout
                              Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                              • Leagio
                                Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR this amendment to the UDoHR.

                                Francis Plessis
                                EU Councilor for the Commonwealth of Leagio

                                President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                • Spain
                                  Spain last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                  Donald D. Tusk
                                  Councillor for Spain

                                  The Kingdom of Spain
                                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                  • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                    Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                    Friedrich van Allen
                                    Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                                    HM King George
                                    Monarch

                                    Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                    Prime Minister

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                                    • Inquista
                                      Inquista last edited by

                                      With 11 votes for, this amendment to the UDoHR has PASSED.

                                      Edward Firoux
                                      Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                                      siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                      Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                      Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                      Councillor Karinn Lallana

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