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    BUDGET OF THE EUROPEAN UNION FOR 2021-2022

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    • Spain
      Spain last edited by

      Councillor Tilkanas, I have said sorry 3 times, and apologised 4 counting those 3. I know people tend to feel good when the criticise the European Progressive Alliance or it's members, and even when they do things correctly, they are blamed. The European Progresive Alliance has, in fact, been a victim of many criticism capaigns based on false and out-of-context claims, and this is the start of a new one. I hope that many of those who signed the complaint and haven't appeared around here for months for whatever reason, spend more time here, caring about the Europeans, instead of wasting it on a personal revenge against someone or an Eurogroup; the EU would be much better if that happened.

      I forgot to submit my amendments in the last speech and I'm submiting them now. I would like to request that each of the variations are taken as several amendments, and not as just one:


      Expenses:
      European Council: 1,625,000,000€
      European Relief Force: 230,335,878.20€
      Total Expenses: 32.139.131.633€


      Budget Totals:
      Total Expenses: 32.139.131.633€
      Total Surplus: 61.186.236.409,39€


      Donald Tusk
      Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

      The Kingdom of Spain
      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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      • Istkalen
        Istkalen EU last edited by

        Firstly: why should we increase our own funding, especially when we have fewer members? Imagine headlines - amid European crises, Council decides to rise its own pay! It smacks of corruption. Secondly, the European Relief Force's funding last year was perfectly adequate for its repeated deployments; the budget this year is not something made to pay them for what they have done, but rather to allow them to continue to function. Certainly, they should have access to more funds; but I have come to the conclusion that this should be accomplished merely by increasing the future initiative allotment rather than anything else, as that allows for more flexibility.

        You also have not apologized for your words; you have merely apologized for potential misinterpretations of your words, and have sought to, in fact, defend them as the right thing to say. Again, everyone here knew what you were trying to say; we were merely shocked and disgusted at the way you chose to say it. This is not a vendetta against the EPA or the EU; it is concern over the fact that such vulgar and innapropriate words were uttered in these most respectable of chambers.

        Iras Tilkanas
        Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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        • Spain
          Spain last edited by

          It's not true at all that the Council would rise its pay if the assignation for the institution was amendment, it would still have been cut down from 1,822,925,000€ to 1,625,000,000€. Approximately, 200 million Euros less for the Council, so I don't understand why it would generate a crisis, nor why we should be called corrupt. And we agree the European Relief Force should have more funds, but it's way better to directly get the money in their budget than in the future initiative allotment, which as its own name says, it's reserved money for all kind of legislation. We should also mention that the increase is a few millions, speaking in the terms of the huge amount of money the European Union is handling.

          And about my words, once again, my apologies. The way I have said "doing nothing" could have been better, and I'm very sorry and so I apology to everybody in the room. But, as I also said, I never bring my speeches written so it just comes up. I will put all my forces to not repeat it again. About my opinions on the reactions, I'll save them for myself.

          Donald Tusk
          Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

          The Kingdom of Spain
          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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          • Istkalen
            Istkalen EU last edited by

            Apologies for my misinterpretation of the amendment.

            Iras Tilkanas
            Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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              Czech Slavia EU last edited by

              Firstly, I would just like to thank to all that have stood up against the improper remarks in this Council. I can't accept an apology, that is not apologizing for the improper words but for us getting alarmed by them. However I would appreciate if we could move past talking about certain body parts. And I would also appreciate if we could restrain from mentioning each other's private parts on social media, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thank you.

              Councillor Tilkanas, you have in fact interpreted the amendment proposed by the Deputy Speaker quite correctly. The cost per individual Council member would in fact increase with his proposition from the previous budget. In the proposed budget, the expanses for the council have been decreased proportionally to the decrease of Council members and the cost of one individual member of the Council have remained unchanged. The decrease has, of course, nothing to do with activity Mr. Deputy Speaker. The amendment proposed by Mr. Tusk would in fact increase the pay of Council. Which is something I don't see a reason for, as there were no issues with the funding for the Council in the previous fiscal year.

              The proposed funding for the European Relief Force has remained largely unchanged from the previous budget, since there were no issues with their funding and I haven't registered a demand for increased funding, and so I haven't proposed a major change to their funding from the previous fiscal year. Of course I am not principally opposed to increase their funding if members of the Council consider it needed, even at the expanse of the money that could have been returned to the member states.

              Sofie Čikarová
              Premier Commissioner

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              • Istkalen
                Istkalen EU last edited by

                I will now propose my amendment, in light of recent statements:

                **Future Initiative Allotment (From Legislation, etc): 10 000 000 000€ 11 000 000 000€

                As I have stated, many of the agencies and organizations of the Union may require more in the coming months, requiring more preparation than ordinary.

                Iras Tilkanas
                Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                • Spain
                  Spain last edited by

                  Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. There are SIX amendments, which have been proposed by Councillor Tilkanas and myself, Councillor Tusk. The amendments are thus:

                  Amendment I - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                  Expenses:
                  European Council: 1,625,000,000€

                  Amendment II - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                  Expenses:
                  European Relief Force: 230,335,878.20€

                  Amendment III - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                  Expenses:
                  Total Expenses: 32.139.131.633€

                  Amendment IV - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                  Budget Totals:
                  Total Expenses: 32.139.131.633€

                  Amendment V - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                  Budget Totals:
                  Total Surplus: 61.186.236.409,39€

                  Amendment VI - Proposed by Cllr. Tilkanas

                  Expenses:
                  Future Initiative Allotment (From Legislation, etc): 11,000,000,000€


                  Voting on amendments will commence NOW and will last until 19:30 GMT on October 1st, 2021.


                  I vote FOR amendments I, II, III, IV and V and AGAINST amendment VI.

                  Donald Tusk
                  Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                  The Kingdom of Spain
                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                  • Inquista
                    Inquista last edited by

                    I vote FOR Amendment II and Amendment VI. I vote AGAINST all other amendments.

                    Bp. Karinn Lallana
                    Councillor for Inquista

                    siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                    Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                    Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                    Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                    • Istkalen
                      Istkalen EU last edited by

                      I vote FOR Amendment VI, and AGAINST all other amendments.

                      Iras Tilkanas
                      Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                      • Inimicus
                        Inimicus EU last edited by

                        The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR Amendment II and AGAINST all other amendments.

                        Nicholas Benfield

                        The Empire of Inimicus
                        Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                        Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                        Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                        • BrumBrum
                          BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                          On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR ammendments II and VI and AGAINST all other ammendments
                          James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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                            Montenbourg EU last edited by

                            The Kingdom of Montenbourg votes FOR All Amendments.

                            Emma Granger,
                            Councillor for Montenbourg.

                            🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                            👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                            🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                            🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                              Czech Slavia EU last edited by Czech Slavia

                              On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I ABSTAIN on Amendment II and Amendment VI and vote AGAINST all other Amendments.

                              Václav Kohout
                              Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                              • Spain
                                Spain last edited by

                                Voting on amendments has concluded. With 2 votes FOR and 5 votes AGAINST, Amendment I has been REJECTED. With 5 votes FOR, 1 vote AGAINST and 1 vote ABSTAINING, Amendment II has PASSED. With 2 votes FOR and 5 votes AGAINST, Amendment III has been REJECTED. With 2 votes FOR and 5 votes AGAINST, Amendment IV has been REJECTED. With 2 votes FOR and 5 votes AGAINST, Amendment V has been REJECTED. With 4 votes FOR, 2 AGAINST and 1 ABSTAINING, Amendment VI has PASSED.

                                The budget has been updated to reflect the passed amendments.


                                Final voting begins NOW and will last until 20:11 GMT on October 4th, 2021.

                                Donald Tusk
                                Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                                The Kingdom of Spain
                                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                • Inquista
                                  Inquista last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this budget.

                                  Bp. Karinn Lallana
                                  Councillor for Inquista

                                  siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                  Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                  Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                  Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                                  • Vayinaod
                                    Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote FOR this budget.

                                    Carita Falk
                                    Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                                    Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                    Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                    EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                    • Gadalland and Aspern
                                      Gadalland and Aspern EU last edited by

                                      Gadalland and Aspern votes FOR this budget.

                                      -Edutitalle Dina
                                      Head Councillor

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                                      • Spain
                                        Spain last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I ABSTAIN on the European Budget.

                                        Donald Tusk
                                        Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                                        The Kingdom of Spain
                                        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                          Montenbourg EU last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote FOR this budget.

                                          Emma Granger
                                          Councillor for Montenbourg

                                          🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                                          👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                                          🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                                          🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                                          • Brickston
                                            Brickston EU last edited by Brickston

                                            On behalf of the Republic of Brickston, I vote FOR this budget.

                                            Swenstee Ceshsawan
                                            European Councillor for Brickston

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