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    • A
      Alkharya EU last edited by

      I will not support this legislation because I don't believe that councillors will work independently from representatives. I am concerned that this will limit councillors freedom and make representatives act like a watchdog for councillors. If we want more representation for the governments in the council, then we should've let member states to decide the way they chose their councillor, but that's another story. This amendment would have been more defined and less half-assed if representatives could vote and propose legislation, but the councillors having the power to veto the legislation if possible, but bicameralism is a garbage way of doing things and an unicameral system is more effective and superior in every way.

      Aylin Gökçen
      Councillor of Alkharya

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      • Duxburian Union
        Duxburian Union EU last edited by

        I also don't see the point of this. Councillors are already free to invite whoever they need to give input during debate. The European Constitution should only state what's absolutely necessary, without redundancy, as we already can't agree on what the existing words mean.

        Wesley Greene
        Councillor of the Duxburian Union

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        • Kingdom of Reitzmag
          Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

          I'd like to request for another debate extension so we can thoroughly examine this proposal.

          Friedrich van Allen
          Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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          HM King George
          Monarch

          Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
          Prime Minister

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          • Inquista
            Inquista last edited by

            Sure. Debate will be extended for 48 hours from the previous extension, until 02:00 GMT on November 16th, 2020.

            Edward Firoux
            Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

            siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
            Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
            Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
            Councillor Karinn Lallana

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            • Inimicus
              Inimicus EU last edited by

              There is a real argument to be had about the structure and form of the European Council; a debate which, in fact, we have been having in this chamber for years on end. This, however, is not a viable solution in the eyes of the Imperial Government. As Cllr Greene rightly pointed out, Councillors in this body are already more than welcome to invite guests and speakers into the Council to speak on whatever issue. This Amendment does not solve the debate on elected vs appointed councillorships, it does not solve the debate on proportional vs equal representation. Inimicus will oppose it.

              Hetty Tilki
              Empire of Inimicus

              The Empire of Inimicus
              Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
              Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
              Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by

                This idea could be great for those wishing to have their "Government Representative" on the Council, but that's not something I would be confortable here. I will give you a simple example to explain my choice: Imagine a Councillor stands against for a certain bill, which we will call "Bill A"; but the Government representative on this chamber is for it. Now, the Councillor votes against Bill A, which makes the Government and the Representative be mad at our Councillor. If his Government recalls their Councillor, and they don't allow him to run again. What do we get? A voice being silenced at this chamber because of the representative's idea.

                With no representatives, at least no one can tell the Councillor what they want him to vote or do, and there is no excuse to recall him because he couldn't have met with the President, Prime Minister or whoever. But if we get a representative, the example could be true in a few days. That's why I will vote against it. Thank you.

                Donald D. Tusk
                Councillor for Spain

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • Inquista
                  Inquista last edited by

                  Debate is now over. Final voting begins NOW and will last until 07:00 GMT on November 21st, 2020.

                  On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote AGAINST this constitutional amendment.

                  Edward Firoux
                  Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                  siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                  Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                  Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                  Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                  • Duxburian Union
                    Duxburian Union EU last edited by

                    On behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I vote AGAINST the amendment.

                    Wesley Greene
                    Councillor of the Duxburian Union

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                      Alkharya EU last edited by

                      On behalf of Alkharya, I vote AGAINST this constitutional amendment.

                      Aylin Gökçen
                      Councillor of Alkharya

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                      • Nofoaga
                        Nofoaga EU last edited by

                        On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST this constitutional amendment.

                        Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare,
                        EU Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                          Montenbourg EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote AGAINST this constitutional amendment.

                          Emma Granger
                          Councillor for Montenbourg

                          🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                          👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                          🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                          🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                          • Spain
                            Spain last edited by

                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this constitutional amendment.

                            Donald D. Tusk
                            Councillor for Spain

                            The Kingdom of Spain
                            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                            • BrumBrum
                              BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                              On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this constitutional amendment.

                              Tobias Johnson Farage , United Duchies

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                              • Leagio
                                Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                Francis Plessis
                                EU Councilor for Leagio

                                President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                • Fremet
                                  Fremet EU last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I hereby ABSTAIN from voting.

                                  Charles Michel
                                  Councilor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                                  Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                  EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                  #FortressFremet

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                                  • Inimicus
                                    Inimicus EU last edited by

                                    The Empire of Inimicus votes AGAINST this Amendment.

                                    Hetty Tilki

                                    The Empire of Inimicus
                                    Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                    Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                    Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                                    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I ABSTAIN from voting.

                                      Friedrich van Allen
                                      Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

                                      alt text

                                      HM King George
                                      Monarch

                                      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                      Prime Minister

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