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    Definition of Nations (Istkalen) Bill

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      Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

      Benfield, you are so wrong. This guy needs to stop looking at climate graphs and read the Constitution, OK?

      The Constitution says, "Commissioners do not represent nor are they related to any government of any member state of the European Union". OK? And this is about Commissioners, the bill doesn't say we should have a councillor from Istkalen. In fact, it says here, "This Act does not constitute recognition of the right of Istkalen to representation on the European Council."

      All we are doing is saying if someone wants to represent the European Union, and they're from Istkalen, then the actions of the J-TAI shouldn't stop that. This isn't the medieval warm period any more, Benfield, we don't stop people standing for election because of a conquest, or a war.

      I mean, you should have seen this guy, folks. All the time he's been reading these graphs, going up, going down, climate and temperatures, and I don't know. The only temperature he knows about is that the Globalists have gone cold. The only graph he knows about is that the Globalists' support is going down. You could even say it's going down like a hockey stick.

      So folks, if you're not scared of a little opposition, and you don't want the Reitzmic army going around stopping anyone you don't like from running for Commission, then you have got to vote for this bill. That's all it is, folks. That's all it is.

      Cllr Dragan Trympov

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      • Spain
        Spain last edited by Spain

        Cllr. Trympov, just before I introduce an amendment to this bill, I want to remember you about something you seem not to understand: Mr. Juncker didn't say he would throw Atty. Winston off a balcony, but answering the question "What else could we expect about you?", he said: 'Joining the balconing team in Ibiza, but this time without a Parachute with you.' Also Ms. Yahontov, if you want to propose any guest to come here and explain what the Joint Transitional Authority for Istkalen thinks, please tell us a name and we will work to bring the person here as soon as possible.

        But, as of now, here's my amendment:

        SECTION I

        II. Anyone who was a citizen of the Republic of Istkalen on May 26th, 2021 may not nominate themselves as a candidate for election to the European Commission and the European Court of Justice until the European Commission reaches a conclusion concerning the current status of Istkalen within the European Union. and if elected, may serve in the role to which they have been elected.

        Donald Tusk
        Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

        The Kingdom of Spain
        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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        • Istkalen
          Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

          Why? It is illegal to unilaterally strip millions of people of their citizenship. Are you so obsessed with Mr. Juncker that you are trying to block others from campaigning against him?

          If this continues, we may have to secede our territory again as to reform Istkalen. I will also ask for an extension.

          Iras Tilkanas
          Representative of the Republic of Istkalen

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          • Spain
            Spain last edited by

            Cllr. Tilkanas, I think you don't really understand that Istkalen has ceased to exist, and you just need to look to the Instrument of Surrender, which under my reading gives the occupying forces, in this case, Reitzmag and Vayinaod; the power to abolish the State of Istkalen, which by the way, happened. That means Istkalen is not a country, therefore it can be a member of the European Union, so then they cannot have a Councillor. This is not about Mr. Juncker, the campaign or whatever you want to, it is about legal stuff. The European Commission is the only competent office to decide on how Istkalen should be regarded, while the Council should ratify that view. Meanwhile, it is not illegal to strip that people from their citizenship, because Istkalen doesn't exist, so they are stateless.

            Donald Tusk
            Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

            The Kingdom of Spain
            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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            • Istkalen
              Istkalen EU last edited by

              I am now the Interim Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen, unrelated to the Republic of Istkalen.

              Who gave the Commission this power? It isn't the Constitution, that is certain. It is you and you alone! Even though this involves a state which I no longer have any connection to, this is evil and insane!

              Iras Tilkanas
              Interim Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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              • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                I would like to clarify upon further reading the announcement made by the J-TAI that only the Republic of Istkalen was disbanded but the State of Istkalen remains. This therefore means that there is a state but the shadow government is absent until new elections have concluded. In addition, this means that Istkalen isn't stateless and still exists. There only isn't a shadow government that represents the people for the J-TAI. I am also informed that currently negotiations are underway for the formation of a joint government with the new Republic of Istkalen.

                Yuridiana Yahontov
                Interim Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                  Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                  Can voting on the amendment (which I'm obviously against) please begin?

                  Cllr Dragan Trympov

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                  • Spain
                    Spain last edited by

                    Debate is now over. It is time to vote on the amendments. Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 22:25 GMT on June 8th, 2021.

                    There's one amendment, proposed by Cllr. Tusk:

                    Amendment I - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                    SECTION I
                    II. Anyone who was a citizen of the Republic of Istkalen on May 26th, 2021 may not nominate themselves as a candidate for election to the European Commission and the European Court of Justice until the European Commission reaches a conclusion concerning the current status of Istkalen within the European Union. and if elected, may serve in the role to which they have been elected.


                    I vote FOR the amendment.

                    Donald Tusk
                    Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                    The Kingdom of Spain
                    His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                    President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                    Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                      Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                      On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote AGAINST the amendment I.

                      Václav Kohout
                      Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                        Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                        On behalf of the Kingdom of Pravoslaviya, I vote AGAINST the amendment.

                        Cllr Dragan Trympov

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                        • Nofoaga
                          Nofoaga EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I ABSTAIN from voting.

                          Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                          EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                          • Leagio
                            Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                            On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR the amendment.

                            Francis Plessis
                            EU Councilor for Leagio

                            President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                            Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                            EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                            • Fayrrendel
                              Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                              On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote AGAINST the amendment.

                              Tony Odhinazen
                              EU Councilor Ruthund

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                              • BrumBrum
                                BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                                On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST the amendment
                                James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                                • Fremet
                                  Fremet EU last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Republic of Fremet, I vote AGAINST the Amendment.

                                  Charles Michel
                                  Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                                  Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                  EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                  #FortressFremet

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                                    Montenbourg EU last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I ABSTAIN from voting.

                                    Emma Granger
                                    Councilor for Montenbourg

                                    🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                                    👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                                    🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                                    🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                                    • Fremet
                                      Fremet EU last edited by

                                      Voting on amendments has ENDED.

                                      With 2 votes FOR, 5 votes AGAINST, and two Abstentions, the Amendment proposed has FAILED.

                                      We now move on to final voting, which begins NOW and ends 12 June 2021 at 12h00 GMT.


                                      On behalf of the Republic of Fremet, I vote FOR this act.

                                      Charles Michel
                                      Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                                      Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                      EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                      #FortressFremet

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                                      • Inimicus
                                        Inimicus EU last edited by

                                        The Empire of Inimicus votes AGAINST this outrageous Act.

                                        Nicolas Benfield

                                        The Empire of Inimicus
                                        Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                        Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                        Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                                        • Fayrrendel
                                          Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I ABSTAIN to vote.
                                          Tony Odhinazen
                                          EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                                          • Spain
                                            Spain last edited by

                                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this bill.

                                            Donald Tusk
                                            Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                                            The Kingdom of Spain
                                            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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