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    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

      Dearly esteemed members of the European Council, as of now we have another report of an attempt against us. During a distribution of relief packs in our Republic Assistance Base, a woman approached Atty. Winston and chattered with him. One of our troops tried to end the conversation but then the woman unleashed a hammer and tried to smash Atty. Winston's head. Atty. Winston is safe while the soldier was hit, though he is currently recovering from the incident. Our Army tackled the woman and put her inside one of our trucks to avoid more incidents like that.

      Honorable councilors and commissioners, I do not think that it is safe to say that military can't be used to neutralize the conflict. Currently, the lady is under our custody and will remain inside the truck with all her necessities and will be counted as a refugee.

      This afternoon, we have also identified the location of the guerilla rebels through our satellites and drones. We have sent goods which include food, water, and clothes via air drop through our helicopters. The goods of course, were inspected by doctors to ensure that the Haaneans will remain safe despite what these guerilla forces did to my men. We are also looking forward to force the remaining Haaneans to form a democratic government under a democratic process. That is all I can report this council for now.

      Gen. Sir Mark Carleton-Smith
      Chief of Staff, Royal Army

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      HM King George
      Monarch

      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
      Prime Minister

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      • Spain
        Spain last edited by

        Gen. Carleton-Smith, you really seem not to care about what the Internal Affairs Commissioner said and we are still waiting for a rectification about the European flags. The Kingdom of Spain doesn't support imperialism and war crimes, what your country is doing at the moment as we are seeing in Kiel. You can't deny the fact, the truth. Are you going to rectificate on the European Union flags? Can we trust on your words?

        I absolutely condemn what happened to Atty. Winston, the poisson of your soldiers and blablabla. But I also condemn, and I think all the Council does, your imperialism and war crimes all around Eastern Haane. You have gone there for a simple reason, and that was killing innocents and getting a puppet, relevance by killing hundreds of innocents. And now you want to lead the operation? I would be embarrased if I would be you, Gen. Carleton-Smith.

        Gentleman, I hope Reitzmag, for the sake of stability and regulations follow this intervention motion and does not act independently to the European Union and moreover, doesn't break the No fly zone the 4 Assembled Powers are setting up on Sunday. And I hope you can give some answers or at least, don't ignore this council which is what you have been doing since you arrived here. Thank you very much.

        Donald D. Tusk
        Councillor for Spain

        The Kingdom of Spain
        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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        • Vayinaod
          Vayinaod EU last edited by

          Fellow Cllrs. I echo the sentiments of Speaker Firoux as the reasons to support amendment 2. If the mission of nations like Reitzmag is truly humanitarian, then they should have no qualms as to taking themselves out of military actions in any intervention. There have been hundreds of Reitzmic causalities, at least those publicly acknowledged. Amendment 2 will go far to show the local people of Eastern Haane we will not universally forgive actions that may have forsaken the European principals we stand for.

          I hope the various Councillors reconsider this, and support the second amendment I proposed.

          Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
          Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
          EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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          • ?
            A Former User last edited by A Former User

            I would like to bring up the recent statement made by the leader of one of Eastern Haane's guerilla forces, in which it is said that "Reitzmic forces have set up a totalitarian state apparatus," and that "they know and see everything." While I in no way trust this man, who has spearheaded a number of atrocities against Reitzmic forces, we must at the very least consider that what he is saying is true. If so, then it appears that Reitzmag has gained total and near permanent control over the area.

            As a result, while I do fully support the second amendment as a result of the antipathy that the Haaneans have for the Reitzmic forces, I also caution the nations to take part in this coalition. If this statement is true, Reitzmag will refuse to move, and will be difficult to remove forcefully without mass casualty.

            However, a removal must certainly be made if no voluntary action is made. Even without this statement, all evidence from the area points to an occupation.

            Eugen Freund
            Councillor for the Federal Republic of Austria

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            • Inimicus
              Inimicus EU last edited by

              "I would like to thank Speaker Firoux, Cllr Freund, and Cllr Falk for clarifying the reasons for Amendment 2. The Empire has been swayed to support it, and we thank you.

              I echo Cllr Freund's words, which emphasise the nature of Reitzmic military occupation in the region. Any coalition members who take part in military operations against elements in Eastern Haane or, heavens forbid, the Kingdom of Reitzmag, should be warned for the seemingly near-total occupation of several regions in Eastern Haane that Reitzmic forces have wrought.

              Fortunately, and I suppose this is where I may be able to put Cllr Freund at ease, the current Motion, as it stands and was authored, makes any potential non-cooperation by Reitzmag a punishable offence in the European Court of Justice. Now, that is not to say this in itself would persuade the Reitzmic military from moving, but it may, in the future, allow for the reconstruction of relations between all of us in a harmonious, and importantly, lawful way."

              Hetty Tilki
              Empire of Inimicus

              The Empire of Inimicus
              Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
              Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
              Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by

                I would also like to thank both Councillors Firoux and Falk, and before I leave the chamber, I would like to give a last message for all the Councillors and for all your countries: "We shall raise against those obstacles trying to doom our way. We will make it together, and we will get over this united. Co-operation is essential, let's not break the regulations and co-operate."

                Also, the Commission will be looking closely at the actions and will release a report once we have enough information to do so. We will be asking all factions to send information about casualties and other happenings of interest for me and the other Commissioners.

                Thank you very much.

                Jean-Claude Juncker
                Internal Affairs Commissioner

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • BrumBrum
                  BrumBrum Commission last edited by BrumBrum

                  Mr Tobias Farage Johnson

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                  " I would like to thank nations for their concerns for humanity and the rights of fellow brothers of the human race in East Hahne. It is our view action is needed and needed now. The United Duchies will join in this action as we cannot morally do nothing while people are killed daily and in the most heinous of crimes. Those perpetrating the crimes must be brought to justice and those needing shelter be allowed to get to countries to claim asylum as needed. That is why the United Duchies will be co-operating with our European friends and supporting this act in its fullness as well as supporting any reconstruction aid and policies needed to achieve long term stability.We also will be willing to support a transition democratic government and overseeing of any new elections jointly with European partners. Thank you."

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                  • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                    Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                    Hon. Tusk, think you do not understand. My country has the sole sovereignty over its armed forces. We did not enter the European Union for its esteemed institutions to control even our Armed Forces. There is no act or part from the EU Constitution that allows the EU to gain control over a member-state's armed force. We will not follow any foreign directive that had been decided without our consultation. As of now, we don't think that we need to intervene in Eastern Haane. The refugees we retrieved had burnt the temporary housing we installed for them. We have given all the care we could even if it is dangerous. But, I think it would be better if the only state trusted by the Haaneans would intervene. Hence, I suggest that the EU lets Austria to do the job.

                    Gen. Sir Mark Carleton-Smith
                    Chief of Staff, Royal Army

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                    HM King George
                    Monarch

                    Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                    Prime Minister

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                    • ?
                      A Former User last edited by

                      (OOC: No, no, and no. As far as I can tell, masters cannot intervene on the behalf of their puppets.)

                      The Federal Republic of Austria will maintain its neutrality, and will not intervene here nor anywhere else. We have let the Haaneans establish their own government in exile not out of support but out of simple kindness, a kindness that all should have. All peoples, in our minds, should be completely sovereign over their own affairs.

                      We do not believe ourselves to be more or less trusted by the Haanean people, either, and do not even have a military, nor intend to create one.

                      In short, all that you have said regarding our state and our country is entirely untrue; all that you have demanded will not come to be.

                      Eugen Freund
                      Councillor for the Federal Republic of Austria

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                      • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                        Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                        Hon. Freund, your country is the only state trusted by the Haaneans. I can infer that political ideology had impacted the Haaneans' decision to be against us. It is very well taught in Reitzmic Military School that political ideology should be set aside during missions. I think we should just drop aid to the Haaneans and leave them alone. The Austrians can also do the job. By the way, GCHQ is currently deciding whether we will pull out of the area. That is all I can say for now.

                        Gen. Sir Mark Carleton-Smith
                        Chief of Staff, Royal Army

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                        HM King George
                        Monarch

                        Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                        Prime Minister

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                        • ?
                          A Former User last edited by

                          I must repeat that we have no military, nor do we intend to create one. Such an action would result in the removal of the entire administration from power. At the same time, as far as I can infer from the various releases from the Republic and from Eastern Haane, this has very little to do with political ideology, and more to do with the fact that you were an occupying force. No one wants to be occupied, for it is an encroachment upon the autonomy of nations.

                          Again, we do not believe ourselves to be trusted by the Haaneans any more than any other nation. We will remain with our policy of neutrality. You cannot dictate for us what our government should or should not do.

                          Eugen Freund
                          Councillor for the Federal Republic of Eastern Haane

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                          • Inquista
                            Inquista last edited by

                            Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. There are two amendments, both proposed by Councillor Falk:

                            Amendment I

                            1. This coalition of willing members shall be lead by a commissioned flag officer who shall be appointed by the Premier Commissioner on the consent of participating members. This flag officer shall be from a nation with no previous attachment to operations within Eastern Haane.

                            2. The coalition shall only have legal merit until the 31st of December, 2020. The European Council in the weeks proceeding this expiration shall consider an additional three month extension.

                            Amendment II

                            1. Members of the Coalition intervening in Eastern Haane must inform and brief the European Council on their actions in the territory of Eastern Haane at least once every fortnight 96 Hours.

                            2. Any member state intervening in Eastern Haane, or continuing to do so after the passage of this motion, is hereby condemned by the European Council and may face legal action in the European Court of Justice.
                              a. Member states intervening in Eastern Haane outside of the Coalition, who then join said Coalition within 48 hours of the passage of this motion, may be exempt from measures under this section.
                              b. Any member-states which have engage in open combat with any native elements or groups within Eastern Haane shall not be allowed to take part in further military actions in the nation even as part of the coalition. These member-states shall be allowed to continue humanitarian and medical actions under supervision from the coalition commander. This section shall be appealable to the coalition commander

                            Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 07:30 GMT on October 6th, 2020.


                            I vote FOR both amendments.

                            Edward Firoux
                            Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                            siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                            Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                            Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                            Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                            • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                              Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                              On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote FOR Amendment I and AGAINST Amendment II.

                              Friedrich van Allen
                              Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                              HM King George
                              Monarch

                              Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                              Prime Minister

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                              • Spain
                                Spain last edited by

                                On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR both amendments.

                                Donald D. Tusk
                                Councillor for Spain

                                The Kingdom of Spain
                                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                • Inimicus
                                  Inimicus EU last edited by

                                  The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR both Amendments.

                                  Cllr Hetty Tilki
                                  Empire of Inimicus

                                  The Empire of Inimicus
                                  Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                  Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                  Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                                  • BrumBrum
                                    BrumBrum Commission last edited by BrumBrum

                                    On behalf of the United Duchies I vote FOR both amendments
                                    Mr Tobias Farage Johnson

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                                    • Leagio
                                      Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR both Amendments.

                                      Francis Plessis
                                      EU Councilor for Leagio

                                      President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                      Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                      EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                      • Vayinaod
                                        Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote FOR both amendments.

                                        Cllr. Carita Falk

                                        Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                        Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                        EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                        • Fremet
                                          Fremet EU last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I vote FOR both amendments.

                                          Charles Michel
                                          Councilor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                                          Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                          EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                          #FortressFremet

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                                          • Nofoaga
                                            Nofoaga EU last edited by

                                            I vote FOR both amendments.

                                            Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                                            EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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