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    Amendment to the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen

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    • ?
      A Former User last edited by

      I did not imply or say that the UNSR was a legitimate government, Councillor Plessis. It is entirely undemocratic. I simply stated that we would have to prepare ourselves for the contingency that the UNSR is overthrown and replaced by a new, legitimate and democratic government with a popular basis that is not the United Dominions of Icholasen. For example, let us say that the Nicoleizians replace the UNSR with a 'Republic of Icholasen.' They hold free elections; and what then? Are they recognized or not?

      Regarding my second amendment - Amendment IV - I concede to you, my colleagues. I thus ask that it be withdrawn.

      However, I would like to address what you all are saying about 'Communist regime.' Eastern Haane is a communist regime, in that we are actively attempting to abolish all remnants of capitalism in our country and have made socialism irrevocable. Yet we are staunch supporters of political freedom, so much so that there is an ongoing rebellion against a government that curtailed freedoms in what is possibly an attempt to calm the current political maelstrom. We have held free elections and referendums; in fact, some of our principles of government, including the binding of representatives to the mandate of their constituencies, make us even more democratic in certain ways than your governments. Please stop making these blanket claims. They discredit a great many people who are actively working to ensure that democracy remains stable in Europe.

      Martin Bourgaize
      Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane*

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      • Nofoaga
        Nofoaga EU last edited by Nofoaga

        Councilor Bourgaize, stating that the government of Eastern Haane is actively attempting to abolish all remnants of capitalism and have made socialism irrevocable, is by definition, excluding freedom and democracy. The only way to obtain your Socialist paradise is by the use of a certain form of oppression.

        Countries like yours and the UNSR have no place here.

        Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
        EU councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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          A Former User last edited by

          Councillor Dubecq, again, I must repeat that the UNSR is entirely a dictatorship, and should not receive any of our support. However, I do not understand how oppression is needed to obtain a 'Socialist paradise,' especially in a country founded by deported revolutionaries.

          I fully support this condemnation, save for my previous exceptions.

          Martin Bourgaize
          Councillor for the People's Confederation of Eastern Haane

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          • Nofoaga
            Nofoaga EU last edited by

            Mr. Bourgaize, Nofoaga is founded by French Empirialists. That doesn't mean all Nofoagans support a French state. I hope you see how dumb and senseless your argument is.

            Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
            EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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            • Inquista
              Inquista last edited by Inquista

              Alright Councillors, let us please remain civil. Councillor Dubecq, please refrain from calling anyone's comments dumb. Councillor Bourgaize is an esteemed member of this Council, who has made many wise and meaningful contributions to our chmaber. Eastern Haane will always have a place here. We are all equal members of the European Union.

              I will extend the debate period for a further 48 hours, until 04:00 GMT on August 5th, 2020.

              Edward Firoux
              Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

              siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
              Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
              Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
              Councillor Karinn Lallana

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              • Nofoaga
                Nofoaga EU last edited by

                I apologize for my use of language, Mr. Speaker.

                Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                EU councilor for the the Republic of Nofoaga

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                • Vayinaod
                  Vayinaod EU last edited by

                  Amendment I
                  Section 1

                  1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen.
                  2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen.
                  3. Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
                  4. The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until their the full restoration to of all their original territories.

                  Amendment II
                  Section 2

                  1. Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubics any illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned. until such time as and Only negotiations and agreements with the legitimate government as * of Icholasen is restored permitted.
                  2. The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen. until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation.
                  3. All luxury goods and services traded between the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen and European Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed. and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.

                  These are my two amendments. I am for amending the original condemnation resolution, however, I can not support actions that will only bolster communist propaganda, hurt regular Nicholezian citizens while it leaves those at the top truly unharmed. A resolution that is amended to be a full embargo will be an automatic no from me.

                  Carita Falk
                  Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                  Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                  Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                  EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                  • Inquista
                    Inquista last edited by Inquista

                    The debate period has now come to an end. Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 06:30 GMT on August 8th, 2020.

                    There are 5 amendments to be voted upon. Be wary when voting upon them, as Amendments I, III and IV all clash with one another, and Amendments II and V clash with one another. The amendments are as follows:

                    Amendment I - Authored by Cllr. Firoux
                    Section 1

                    1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen.
                    2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen.
                    3. Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
                    4. The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until their the full restoration to of all their original territories.

                    Amendment II - Authored by Cllr. Firoux
                    Section 2

                    1. Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubics any illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned. until such time as and Only negotiations and agreements with the legitimate government as * of Icholasen is restored permitted.
                    2. The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen. until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation.
                    3. All luxury goods and services traded between the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen and European Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed. and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.

                    Amendment III - Authored by Cllr. Bourgaize
                    Section 1

                    1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford, or their successors; or a legitimate and democratic successor state with a popular basis.
                    2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen, or a legitimate and democratic successor state with a popular basis.

                    Amendment IV - Authored by Cllr. Falk
                    Section 1

                    1. The European Union shall only recognize the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen under Queen Anastasia II and Prime Minister Korojaunu Eilidh Whiteford as the legitimate government of Icholasen.
                    2. The European Union officially condemns the actions by the cabal of military officers, and will not support their any illegitimate government known as the United Nicoleizian Socialist Republics in any capacity. other than the democratically elected government of the United Dominions of Icholasen.
                    3. Only the United Dominions of Icholasen shall be recognized in the European Council for the purposes of representation.
                    4. The new temporary territories of the United Dominions of Icholasen, as outlined in the Treaty of Buckingham attached to this bill, shall be recognized until their the full restoration to of all their original territories.

                    Amendment V - Authored by Cllr. Falk
                    Section 2

                    1. Effectively immediately, any and all military trade agreements between EU member states and Icholasen the United Nicolezian Socialist Repubics any illegitmate governments of Icholasen are hereby suspended and banned. until such time as and Only negotiations and agreements with the legitimate government as * of Icholasen is restored permitted.
                    2. The ENAA license for limited nuclear warheads is hereby revoked from the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics and shall continue to be owned by the legitimate government of Icholasen. until such time as the legitimate government of Icholasen holds proper authority and stability over its nation.
                    3. All luxury goods and services traded between the United Nicolezian Socialist Republics Icholasen and European Union member states and territories occupied by any illegitimate government of Icholasen are hereby embargoed. and Only trade with the restored United Dominions of Icholasen is allowed once restored until further notice.

                    I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.

                    Edward Firoux
                    Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                    siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                    Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                    Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                    Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                      I vote FOR Amendments I and II and AGAINST Amendments III, IV, and V.

                      Friedrich van Allen
                      Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                      HM King George
                      Monarch

                      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                      Prime Minister

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                      • Nofoaga
                        Nofoaga EU last edited by

                        I vote FOR all amendments.

                        Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                        EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                        • Icholasen
                          Icholasen EU last edited by

                          I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.

                          Duchess Poppy Carlton-Romanov
                          Councillor for the United Dominions of Icholasen

                          The Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics
                          Chairman of the Communist Party: Michul Jirluchuz ☭
                          EU Councillor: Poppy Carlton-Romanov (EPA)
                          Korojaunu in Exile: Eilidh Whiteford ☆
                          Monarch in Exile: Queen Anastasia II ♚

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                          • Leagio
                            Leagio ECoJ last edited by Leagio

                            I vote FOR Amendments III and V. I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.

                            Francis Plessis
                            EU Councilor for Leagio

                            President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                            Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                            EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                            • Spain
                              Spain last edited by

                              I vote FOR amendments I, IV and V and AGAINST amendments II and III.

                              Donald D. Tusk
                              Councillor for Spain

                              The Kingdom of Spain
                              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                              • Fremet
                                Fremet EU last edited by

                                I vote FOR amendments I and II, and AGAINST amendments III, IV, and V.

                                Charles Michel
                                Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                                Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                #FortressFremet

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                                • Fayrrendel
                                  Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                                  I ABSTAIN from voting on all amendments.

                                  Helhuan Ziharuthstuktur
                                  EU Councillor, Ruthund

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                                  • P
                                    Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                                    I vote FOR Amendments III and V,

                                    I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.

                                    Cllr Tupac Shakur

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                                      Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                                      I vote AGAINST all amendments.

                                      Václav Kohout
                                      Councillor for the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia

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                                      • Vayinaod
                                        Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                        I vote FOR Amendments III and V,

                                        I vote AGAINST amendments I, II, and IV.

                                        Cllr Carita Falk
                                        Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                                        Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                        Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                        EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                          Montenbourg EU last edited by

                                          I vote FOR Amendments I and II. I vote AGAINST Amendments III, IV and V.

                                          Dame Emma Granger
                                          Councillor for Montebourg

                                          🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                                          👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                                          🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                                          🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                                          • Inquista
                                            Inquista last edited by

                                            Voting on amendments has concluded.

                                            With 7 votes for and 4 votes against, Amendment I has PASSED.
                                            With 6 votes for and 5 votes against, Amendment II has been REJECTED. Motions require 55% of the vote to count as a simple majority.
                                            With 4 votes for and 7 votes against, Amendment III has been REJECTED.
                                            With 2 votes for and 9 votes against, Amendment IV has been REJECTED.
                                            With 5 votes for and 6 against, Amendment V has been REJECTED.

                                            The legislation has been updated to reflect the sole amendment passed. Final voting begins NOW and will last until 06:45 GMT on August 11th, 2020.


                                            Because Section II went unamended, and Clause II exists as it is, I have no choice but to vote against this amendment.

                                            On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote AGAINST this amendment to the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen.

                                            Edward Firoux
                                            Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                                            siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                            Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                            Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                            Councillor Karinn Lallana

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