Repeal of the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen


  • EU

    The Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics, like all other states represented here, Istkalen included, is a capitalist dictatorship, ruled by the bourgeoisie with an iron fist, that came to power via the tricking and deceiving of its people.

    I thus see no difference between it and the other states represented here. If we are to condemn it, then we must condemn all other states in the union.

    Elspeth Arkalis
    Councillor for the Federation of Istkalen


  • EU

    I demand that I be heard. There is nothing in the Constitution preventing this repeal from going to vote; if there is any further delay, I will sue.

    Elspeth Arkalis
    Councillor for the Federation of Istkalen


  • EU

    Councilor Arkalis, you are heard.

    Your intention for repeal motion and not an overall discussion on the matter was not made abundantly clear in your opening statement.

    Nevertheless, I will open this council debate NOW on the motion presented to Repeal the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen Act (2020), to conclude and proceed to a vote on 16 April 2021 at 12h00 GMT.

    Charles Michel
    Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet


  • ECoJ

    I, in principle, support this motion proposed by the Councilor on the grounds that the European Council has not established a clear path towards the reintegration of the UNSR. It is becoming increasingly non-sensical to see the government in exile as an actual government and the willingness for member-states pretending the UNSR has not established legitimacy on the island is becoming silly. The UNSR has, from what I can tell, has domestically stabilized and the prospects for any other regime to arise is miniscule at best for the time being. The EU's hopes for establishing the old Regime in Icholasen has now becoming a fairy tale, unless they are willing to engage in a war of regime change.

    I understand that the European Council has moral disgust towards regime changes by military coup d'etats, which is an understandable impulse. I personally am disgusted by it too, Councilors. Furthermore I would understand if many nations in Europe would take to sanctioning the UNSR. However, the UNSR has demonstrated while their democracy is surely flawed and many problems exist within it, the current regime has proved at least some willingness to make the country participatory in its decision-making. While I rarely hear this argument being made vocally, the notion that the UNSR is undemocratic I feel is an unfair standard when their quality of democracy is comparable to other member states in the EU. To me, it comes off as a bad-faith criticism from this chamber when history has shown us that isolating a state from the rest of the international community often encourages authoritarianism in the isolated country while discrediting any moderating forces.

    Councilors, instead of treating the UNSR as a boogyman that is to be feared by us, let's replace this condemnation with a roadmap to reintegrate the UNSR-- a plan to peacefully reintegrate them into the European community, instead of the ineffective jousting that we see from the likes of Premier Commissioner Cocx and certain other members of this chamber. It is important that we validate the moderate voices, the reformists, and the cool heads of the UNSR and the only way we can do this is offering a way out for the UNSR so they do not feel they have to be besieged. Our current policy towards the UNSR fails to do this. What I propose is not necessarily to repeal the condemnation of the UNSR, but to replace it with a more pragmatic and diplomatic framework on how the European Union should conduct policy towards the UNSR and as I said before, give the UNSR a chance to open up to the European Community. While I cannot guarantee the success of this project, none of what we are doing currently is making progress towards making a better Icholasen

    And Councilors, I sincerely hope I do not have to explain why it would be a ehhh... less than fortunate idea to attempt a regime change war in the UNSR. Think well on this alternative.

    Tony Odhinazen
    EU Councilor, Ruthund


  • EU

    The architects of fear have converted a wholesome law against conspiracy into an instrument for making association a crime. Pretending to fear government they have asked government to outlaw private protest. They glorify "togetherness" when it is theirs, and call it conspiracy when it is that of others.

    Communism as I see it has no place in the European Union, and Europeans will not stand for its teachings. Calling for a Repeal is nonesense.

    Emma Granger
    Councillor for Montenbourg


  • EU

    To allow members otherwise engaged to weigh in, I'm extending this debate through the weekend until 18 April 2021 at 12h00 GMT.

    Charles Michel
    Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet


  • EU

    Debate on this has ended. We will now move on to final voting.

    Voting on the Repeal of the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen begins NOW and ends 23 April 2021 at 12h00 GMT.


    On behalf of the Republic of Fremet, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

    Charles Michel
    Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet


  • Commission

    Naturally, the Empire of Inimicus votes AGAINST this Repeal.


  • EU

    On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

    Emma Granger
    Councilor for Montenbourg


  • EU

    On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST this Repeal.

    Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
    EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga


  • EU

    On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

    Donald Tusk
    Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain


  • EU

    On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST this motion
    James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies


  • ECoJ

    On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

    Francis Plessis
    EU Councilor for Leagio


  • EU

    On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote FOR this repeal.

    Václav Kohout
    Councillor for Czech Slavia


  • EU

    Voting has ended.

    With 1 vote FOR, 7 votes AGAINST, and no Abstentions, the Repeal of the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen has FAILED.

    Charles Michel
    Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet


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