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    Definition of Nations (Istkalen) Bill

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    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

      I think it'd be best if we hear the opinions of the J-TAI on this matter.

      Yuridiana Yahontov
      Interim Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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      HM King George
      Monarch

      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
      Prime Minister

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      • Inimicus
        Inimicus EU last edited by

        The Empire of Inimicus will not support any attempt by any Councillor to use pseudo-legal ways to achieve representation from whatever murderous regime currently rules the territory of Istkalen. The Imperial Government hopes the Republic of Istkalen earns the trust of the international community over the next few months, after which we may reconsider our opinion.

        Cllr Nicolas Benfield
        Empire of Inimicus

        The Empire of Inimicus
        Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
        Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
        Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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        • P
          Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

          Benfield, you are so wrong. This guy needs to stop looking at climate graphs and read the Constitution, OK?

          The Constitution says, "Commissioners do not represent nor are they related to any government of any member state of the European Union". OK? And this is about Commissioners, the bill doesn't say we should have a councillor from Istkalen. In fact, it says here, "This Act does not constitute recognition of the right of Istkalen to representation on the European Council."

          All we are doing is saying if someone wants to represent the European Union, and they're from Istkalen, then the actions of the J-TAI shouldn't stop that. This isn't the medieval warm period any more, Benfield, we don't stop people standing for election because of a conquest, or a war.

          I mean, you should have seen this guy, folks. All the time he's been reading these graphs, going up, going down, climate and temperatures, and I don't know. The only temperature he knows about is that the Globalists have gone cold. The only graph he knows about is that the Globalists' support is going down. You could even say it's going down like a hockey stick.

          So folks, if you're not scared of a little opposition, and you don't want the Reitzmic army going around stopping anyone you don't like from running for Commission, then you have got to vote for this bill. That's all it is, folks. That's all it is.

          Cllr Dragan Trympov

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          • Spain
            Spain last edited by Spain

            Cllr. Trympov, just before I introduce an amendment to this bill, I want to remember you about something you seem not to understand: Mr. Juncker didn't say he would throw Atty. Winston off a balcony, but answering the question "What else could we expect about you?", he said: 'Joining the balconing team in Ibiza, but this time without a Parachute with you.' Also Ms. Yahontov, if you want to propose any guest to come here and explain what the Joint Transitional Authority for Istkalen thinks, please tell us a name and we will work to bring the person here as soon as possible.

            But, as of now, here's my amendment:

            SECTION I

            II. Anyone who was a citizen of the Republic of Istkalen on May 26th, 2021 may not nominate themselves as a candidate for election to the European Commission and the European Court of Justice until the European Commission reaches a conclusion concerning the current status of Istkalen within the European Union. and if elected, may serve in the role to which they have been elected.

            Donald Tusk
            Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

            The Kingdom of Spain
            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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            • Istkalen
              Istkalen EU last edited by Istkalen

              Why? It is illegal to unilaterally strip millions of people of their citizenship. Are you so obsessed with Mr. Juncker that you are trying to block others from campaigning against him?

              If this continues, we may have to secede our territory again as to reform Istkalen. I will also ask for an extension.

              Iras Tilkanas
              Representative of the Republic of Istkalen

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by

                Cllr. Tilkanas, I think you don't really understand that Istkalen has ceased to exist, and you just need to look to the Instrument of Surrender, which under my reading gives the occupying forces, in this case, Reitzmag and Vayinaod; the power to abolish the State of Istkalen, which by the way, happened. That means Istkalen is not a country, therefore it can be a member of the European Union, so then they cannot have a Councillor. This is not about Mr. Juncker, the campaign or whatever you want to, it is about legal stuff. The European Commission is the only competent office to decide on how Istkalen should be regarded, while the Council should ratify that view. Meanwhile, it is not illegal to strip that people from their citizenship, because Istkalen doesn't exist, so they are stateless.

                Donald Tusk
                Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • Istkalen
                  Istkalen EU last edited by

                  I am now the Interim Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen, unrelated to the Republic of Istkalen.

                  Who gave the Commission this power? It isn't the Constitution, that is certain. It is you and you alone! Even though this involves a state which I no longer have any connection to, this is evil and insane!

                  Iras Tilkanas
                  Interim Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                  • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                    Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                    I would like to clarify upon further reading the announcement made by the J-TAI that only the Republic of Istkalen was disbanded but the State of Istkalen remains. This therefore means that there is a state but the shadow government is absent until new elections have concluded. In addition, this means that Istkalen isn't stateless and still exists. There only isn't a shadow government that represents the people for the J-TAI. I am also informed that currently negotiations are underway for the formation of a joint government with the new Republic of Istkalen.

                    Yuridiana Yahontov
                    Interim Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                    HM King George
                    Monarch

                    Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                    Prime Minister

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                    • P
                      Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                      Can voting on the amendment (which I'm obviously against) please begin?

                      Cllr Dragan Trympov

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                      • Spain
                        Spain last edited by

                        Debate is now over. It is time to vote on the amendments. Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 22:25 GMT on June 8th, 2021.

                        There's one amendment, proposed by Cllr. Tusk:

                        Amendment I - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                        SECTION I
                        II. Anyone who was a citizen of the Republic of Istkalen on May 26th, 2021 may not nominate themselves as a candidate for election to the European Commission and the European Court of Justice until the European Commission reaches a conclusion concerning the current status of Istkalen within the European Union. and if elected, may serve in the role to which they have been elected.


                        I vote FOR the amendment.

                        Donald Tusk
                        Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                        The Kingdom of Spain
                        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                        • C
                          Czech Slavia EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I vote AGAINST the amendment I.

                          Václav Kohout
                          Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                          • P
                            Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Pravoslaviya, I vote AGAINST the amendment.

                            Cllr Dragan Trympov

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                            • Nofoaga
                              Nofoaga EU last edited by

                              On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I ABSTAIN from voting.

                              Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                              EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                              • Leagio
                                Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR the amendment.

                                Francis Plessis
                                EU Councilor for Leagio

                                President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                • Fayrrendel
                                  Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote AGAINST the amendment.

                                  Tony Odhinazen
                                  EU Councilor Ruthund

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                                  • BrumBrum
                                    BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                                    On behalf of United Duchies I vote AGAINST the amendment
                                    James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                                    • Fremet
                                      Fremet EU last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Republic of Fremet, I vote AGAINST the Amendment.

                                      Charles Michel
                                      Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                                      Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                      EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                      #FortressFremet

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                                      • M
                                        Montenbourg EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I ABSTAIN from voting.

                                        Emma Granger
                                        Councilor for Montenbourg

                                        🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                                        👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                                        🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                                        🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                                        • Fremet
                                          Fremet EU last edited by

                                          Voting on amendments has ENDED.

                                          With 2 votes FOR, 5 votes AGAINST, and two Abstentions, the Amendment proposed has FAILED.

                                          We now move on to final voting, which begins NOW and ends 12 June 2021 at 12h00 GMT.


                                          On behalf of the Republic of Fremet, I vote FOR this act.

                                          Charles Michel
                                          Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                                          Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                          EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                          #FortressFremet

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                                          • Inimicus
                                            Inimicus EU last edited by

                                            The Empire of Inimicus votes AGAINST this outrageous Act.

                                            Nicolas Benfield

                                            The Empire of Inimicus
                                            Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                            Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                            Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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