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BUDGET OF THE EUROPEAN UNION FOR 2021-2022

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  • Spain
    Spain last edited by 22 Sept 2021, 19:02

    Councillor Tilkanas, I have said sorry 3 times, and apologised 4 counting those 3. I know people tend to feel good when the criticise the European Progressive Alliance or it's members, and even when they do things correctly, they are blamed. The European Progresive Alliance has, in fact, been a victim of many criticism capaigns based on false and out-of-context claims, and this is the start of a new one. I hope that many of those who signed the complaint and haven't appeared around here for months for whatever reason, spend more time here, caring about the Europeans, instead of wasting it on a personal revenge against someone or an Eurogroup; the EU would be much better if that happened.

    I forgot to submit my amendments in the last speech and I'm submiting them now. I would like to request that each of the variations are taken as several amendments, and not as just one:


    Expenses:
    European Council: 1,625,000,000€
    European Relief Force: 230,335,878.20€
    Total Expenses: 32.139.131.633€


    Budget Totals:
    Total Expenses: 32.139.131.633€
    Total Surplus: 61.186.236.409,39€


    Donald Tusk
    Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

    The Kingdom of Spain
    His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
    President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
    Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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    • Istkalen
      Istkalen EU last edited by 22 Sept 2021, 19:31

      Firstly: why should we increase our own funding, especially when we have fewer members? Imagine headlines - amid European crises, Council decides to rise its own pay! It smacks of corruption. Secondly, the European Relief Force's funding last year was perfectly adequate for its repeated deployments; the budget this year is not something made to pay them for what they have done, but rather to allow them to continue to function. Certainly, they should have access to more funds; but I have come to the conclusion that this should be accomplished merely by increasing the future initiative allotment rather than anything else, as that allows for more flexibility.

      You also have not apologized for your words; you have merely apologized for potential misinterpretations of your words, and have sought to, in fact, defend them as the right thing to say. Again, everyone here knew what you were trying to say; we were merely shocked and disgusted at the way you chose to say it. This is not a vendetta against the EPA or the EU; it is concern over the fact that such vulgar and innapropriate words were uttered in these most respectable of chambers.

      Iras Tilkanas
      Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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      • Spain
        Spain last edited by 22 Sept 2021, 20:00

        It's not true at all that the Council would rise its pay if the assignation for the institution was amendment, it would still have been cut down from 1,822,925,000€ to 1,625,000,000€. Approximately, 200 million Euros less for the Council, so I don't understand why it would generate a crisis, nor why we should be called corrupt. And we agree the European Relief Force should have more funds, but it's way better to directly get the money in their budget than in the future initiative allotment, which as its own name says, it's reserved money for all kind of legislation. We should also mention that the increase is a few millions, speaking in the terms of the huge amount of money the European Union is handling.

        And about my words, once again, my apologies. The way I have said "doing nothing" could have been better, and I'm very sorry and so I apology to everybody in the room. But, as I also said, I never bring my speeches written so it just comes up. I will put all my forces to not repeat it again. About my opinions on the reactions, I'll save them for myself.

        Donald Tusk
        Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

        The Kingdom of Spain
        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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        • Istkalen
          Istkalen EU last edited by 22 Sept 2021, 21:07

          Apologies for my misinterpretation of the amendment.

          Iras Tilkanas
          Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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            Czech Slavia EU last edited by 23 Sept 2021, 19:57

            Firstly, I would just like to thank to all that have stood up against the improper remarks in this Council. I can't accept an apology, that is not apologizing for the improper words but for us getting alarmed by them. However I would appreciate if we could move past talking about certain body parts. And I would also appreciate if we could restrain from mentioning each other's private parts on social media, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thank you.

            Councillor Tilkanas, you have in fact interpreted the amendment proposed by the Deputy Speaker quite correctly. The cost per individual Council member would in fact increase with his proposition from the previous budget. In the proposed budget, the expanses for the council have been decreased proportionally to the decrease of Council members and the cost of one individual member of the Council have remained unchanged. The decrease has, of course, nothing to do with activity Mr. Deputy Speaker. The amendment proposed by Mr. Tusk would in fact increase the pay of Council. Which is something I don't see a reason for, as there were no issues with the funding for the Council in the previous fiscal year.

            The proposed funding for the European Relief Force has remained largely unchanged from the previous budget, since there were no issues with their funding and I haven't registered a demand for increased funding, and so I haven't proposed a major change to their funding from the previous fiscal year. Of course I am not principally opposed to increase their funding if members of the Council consider it needed, even at the expanse of the money that could have been returned to the member states.

            Sofie Čikarová
            Premier Commissioner

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            • Istkalen
              Istkalen EU last edited by 24 Sept 2021, 23:20

              I will now propose my amendment, in light of recent statements:

              **Future Initiative Allotment (From Legislation, etc): 10 000 000 000€ 11 000 000 000€

              As I have stated, many of the agencies and organizations of the Union may require more in the coming months, requiring more preparation than ordinary.

              Iras Tilkanas
              Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 18:36

                Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. There are SIX amendments, which have been proposed by Councillor Tilkanas and myself, Councillor Tusk. The amendments are thus:

                Amendment I - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                Expenses:
                European Council: 1,625,000,000€

                Amendment II - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                Expenses:
                European Relief Force: 230,335,878.20€

                Amendment III - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                Expenses:
                Total Expenses: 32.139.131.633€

                Amendment IV - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                Budget Totals:
                Total Expenses: 32.139.131.633€

                Amendment V - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk

                Budget Totals:
                Total Surplus: 61.186.236.409,39€

                Amendment VI - Proposed by Cllr. Tilkanas

                Expenses:
                Future Initiative Allotment (From Legislation, etc): 11,000,000,000€


                Voting on amendments will commence NOW and will last until 19:30 GMT on October 1st, 2021.


                I vote FOR amendments I, II, III, IV and V and AGAINST amendment VI.

                Donald Tusk
                Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • Inquista
                  Inquista last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 20:33

                  I vote FOR Amendment II and Amendment VI. I vote AGAINST all other amendments.

                  Bp. Karinn Lallana
                  Councillor for Inquista

                  siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                  Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                  Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                  Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                  • Istkalen
                    Istkalen EU last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 20:45

                    I vote FOR Amendment VI, and AGAINST all other amendments.

                    Iras Tilkanas
                    Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                    • Inimicus
                      Inimicus EU last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 09:21

                      The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR Amendment II and AGAINST all other amendments.

                      Nicholas Benfield

                      The Empire of Inimicus
                      Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                      Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                      Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                      • BrumBrum
                        BrumBrum Commission last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 11:59

                        On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR ammendments II and VI and AGAINST all other ammendments
                        James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillour for United Duchies

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                        • M
                          Montenbourg EU last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 12:48

                          The Kingdom of Montenbourg votes FOR All Amendments.

                          Emma Granger,
                          Councillor for Montenbourg.

                          🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                          👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                          🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                          🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                          • C
                            Czech Slavia EU last edited by Czech Slavia 1 Oct 2021, 17:09 30 Sept 2021, 20:13

                            On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia, I ABSTAIN on Amendment II and Amendment VI and vote AGAINST all other Amendments.

                            Václav Kohout
                            Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                            • Spain
                              Spain last edited by 1 Oct 2021, 19:17

                              Voting on amendments has concluded. With 2 votes FOR and 5 votes AGAINST, Amendment I has been REJECTED. With 5 votes FOR, 1 vote AGAINST and 1 vote ABSTAINING, Amendment II has PASSED. With 2 votes FOR and 5 votes AGAINST, Amendment III has been REJECTED. With 2 votes FOR and 5 votes AGAINST, Amendment IV has been REJECTED. With 2 votes FOR and 5 votes AGAINST, Amendment V has been REJECTED. With 4 votes FOR, 2 AGAINST and 1 ABSTAINING, Amendment VI has PASSED.

                              The budget has been updated to reflect the passed amendments.


                              Final voting begins NOW and will last until 20:11 GMT on October 4th, 2021.

                              Donald Tusk
                              Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                              The Kingdom of Spain
                              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                              • Inquista
                                Inquista last edited by 1 Oct 2021, 21:41

                                On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote FOR this budget.

                                Bp. Karinn Lallana
                                Councillor for Inquista

                                siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                                • Vayinaod
                                  Vayinaod EU last edited by 2 Oct 2021, 04:07

                                  On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote FOR this budget.

                                  Carita Falk
                                  Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                                  Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                  Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                  EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                  • Gadalland and Aspern
                                    Gadalland and Aspern EU last edited by 2 Oct 2021, 09:27

                                    Gadalland and Aspern votes FOR this budget.

                                    -Edutitalle Dina
                                    Head Councillor

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                                    • Spain
                                      Spain last edited by 2 Oct 2021, 09:42

                                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I ABSTAIN on the European Budget.

                                      Donald Tusk
                                      Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                                      The Kingdom of Spain
                                      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                      • M
                                        Montenbourg EU last edited by 2 Oct 2021, 14:17

                                        On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote FOR this budget.

                                        Emma Granger
                                        Councillor for Montenbourg

                                        🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                                        👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                                        🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                                        🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                                        • Brickston
                                          Brickston EU last edited by Brickston 2 Oct 2021, 15:02 2 Oct 2021, 15:01

                                          On behalf of the Republic of Brickston, I vote FOR this budget.

                                          Swenstee Ceshsawan
                                          European Councillor for Brickston

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